Abrowser or IceCat?

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GrevenGull
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Iscritto: 12/18/2017

Looking for anyone's opinion here. Here we have an OS that's certified by the FSF and GnuProject and it's native browser vs the FSF and GnuProject's own browser.

So freedom-wise they should be in the exact same landscape.

But what about other areas like performance, features, design (highly subjective, but I'm interested in people's opinions on everything - even highly subjective matters) etc.

Me personally I think IceCat does a way better job at handing out information/protection to potential inexperienced users in regards to the Javascript situation. On the default front page there are checkboxes for enabling LibreJS extension and for disabling/enabling JS as a whole.

It's been a while since I reinstalled the OS (and/or reinstalled Abrowser) but I don't think Abrowser has any of that information by default.

Beformed
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Iscritto: 01/13/2017

I have to agree with you that Abrowser does not have LibreJS by default. There are also a few more extensions that icecat is featuring. I guess there is nothing that you could not install in Abrowser if you know what you want.

I have to say that Icecat helps on setting you up for a free browsing.

GrevenGull
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Iscritto: 12/18/2017

Indeed. But currently I am using Abrowser because NoScript is currently not available to IceCat (because of the version I think). And personally I find NoScript to be such an interesting addon.

The optimal would be IceCat's focus on guiding the user paired with Abrowser's version.

Beformed
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Iscritto: 01/13/2017

Actually I always wanted to have both Abrowser and Icecat on the latest version in Trisquel since the icecat in the repos is very old though I guess we can see Abrowser as the up to Firefox version and icecat is in a LTS (or at least that's the way I see it).

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Iscritto: 07/07/2017

> Indeed. But currently I am using Abrowser because NoScript is currently
> not available to IceCat (because of the version I think).

What version of Icecat are you running? I'm using NoScript with Icecat
60.7 with no problems.

Beformed
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Iscritto: 01/13/2017

The version in the Trisquel repos is 52.3.0 and noscript is not compatible with it. Noscript requires verion 59 and above.

Narcis Garcia
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Iscritto: 04/15/2019

I usually setup IceCat because it's binary distributed for more
GNU/Linux distros, and my customizations work in more scenarios.

El 10/7/19 a les 1:29, name at domain ha escrit:
> Looking for anyone's opinion here. Here we have an OS that's certified
> by the FSF and GnuProject and it's native browser vs the FSF and
> GnuProject's own browser.
>
> So freedom-wise they should be in the exact same landscape.
>
> But what about other areas like performance, features, design (highly
> subjective, but I'm interested in people's opinions on everything - even
> highly subjective matters) etc.
>
> Me personally I think IceCat does a way better job at handing out
> information/protection to potential inexperienced users in regards to
> the Javascript situation. On the default front page there are checkboxes
> for enabling LibreJS extension and for disabling/enabling JS as a whole.
>
> It's been a while since I reinstalled the OS (and/or reinstalled
> Abrowser) but I don't think Abrowser has any of that information by
> default.

Vanecek
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Iscritto: 01/18/2015

On Trisquel i use Icecat, because it runs without problems.

With Abrowser i have on two of my laptops, the problem with non readable text while scrolling down.

FLOSS
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Iscritto: 05/06/2018

I've set Abrowser as my default. Once I hardened it (per my thread here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/privacy-and-security-configuration-setting-abrowser), it's been a great browser - very private, and very secure. IceCat, while I'm a huge fan of the concept, doesn't work on most pages that I want to look at. It's basically a slightly more graphical version of ELinks.

chaosmonk

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Iscritto: 07/07/2017

> IceCat, while I'm a huge fan of the concept, doesn't work on most
> pages that I want to look at. It's basically a slightly more graphical
> version of ELinks.

Icecat is definitely much more than a graphical version of elinks. It is
as capable of rendering pages as Firefox ESR. The reason why many pages
look different and some might not work is probably because of LibreJS.
Otherwise something is wrong. Can you give an example of a page that
doesn't work with Icecat?

FLOSS
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Iscritto: 05/06/2018

I'll have to surf with it again and take notes on the pages I have problems with. The last time I used it, e-mail, shopping, and a few casual pages (news, etc.) had issues, and yes, I believe it had to do with LibreJS. Iirc, I attempted to disable it, and the javascript was still unable to function for some reason. I'm currently using NoScript on Abrowser, and can easily turn the permissions on/off as necessary. Do you have a tutorial on IceCat? If I'm not understanding the operation of the browser, I'll stand corrected. I'd love to have a browser that is as secure/private as is practical for day-to-day workflow.

Libreshop
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Iscritto: 10/27/2018

You can also try Tor Browser, and set the settings to Safest, it is also based on Firefox esr(8.5.4 (based on Mozilla Firefox 60.8.0esr) (64-bit)).
And you can install libreJs addon.

edit: Tor replaced by Tor Browser