Is anyone here from China?

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mYself
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This is a little off-topic question, but I'll explain it below. Currently I'm trying various "cloud storage" services (ideally, I would like to create an encrypted webdisk that I can access through WebDAV using Nautilus/Files) to replace my 50 GB Mediafire account. I've already managed to get A 2 TB storage on Baidu Pan (see here), and I've also stumbled upon Qihoo 360 which offers 36 TB space for free, but there's a catch. I need a Chinese phone number (with +86 prefix) in order to pass the SMS verification process. I've found one such number here but that's already banned. Once the SMS has been sent, I have 120 seconds to insert the 6 digit verification code to proceed with registration. So my question is: "Is there someone who can help me out?"

In return, (if I manage to) I can upgrade your account to 36 TB using the official Android/Windows clients so you can avoid the need to use proprietary software. In case someone's interested, please contact me using the form on my profile page (please share your public GnuPG key beforehand so we can communicate securely - mine is available on my profile page).

Account registration (in Chinese):
http://yunpan.360.cn/reg

tomlukeywood
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Iscritto: 12/05/2014

for cloud services i recommend owncloud
owncloud is a libre cloud server that you can run yourself

the data is stored locally so you can have fully control over it and can encrypt it etc

also using a libreboot machine would be good as can literly encrypt everything

mYself
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I know, I'm already using ownCloud with OpenMailBox, but it only has 1GB of free storage. I'm searching a way to get more without the need of building a NAS (low security as hard drives tend to wear out after few years of use) or paying for "cloud storage" (don't like monthly payments).

SuperTramp83

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Iscritto: 10/31/2014

Everything is perfect and we live in a beautiful world! People are awesome. And the world is just one big community. In fact these days it is very natural and normal that companies offer you 36 TB of space for free. That is because they love us! They love us so much that they work hard and spend a lot of time and money to provide us with every sort of commodity for free. How nice is that!

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

I'm feeling your sarcasm here, but who cares if I'm going to encrypt all my uploaded files?

onpon4
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Iscritto: 05/30/2012

You know, there's probably a reason you're not seeing a lot of people offering 36 TB of storage gratis. ;) I don't know how much it costs to provide that amount of space, but it's probably pretty expensive. Start offering that amount of space to, say, 1000 people, and the cost is going to go through the roof. And that's just the up-front cost, not even counting maintenance costs. These guys offering 36 TB of gratis storage probably can't actually provide that amount of storage for everybody, probably don't do anything to prevent data loss, and almost certainly have an ulterior motive.

Honestly, I think you would do well to just find someone offering however much space you need for a cost, preferably someone who accepts bitcoin or cash. Or you could set up your own OwnCloud server.

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

I just want to test the service. Is there something bad with that?

Also, AFAIK they're using data deduplication to offer that much space.

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

Also, what's the difference when using an ownCloud based service? That doesn't give me anything more security-wise.

onpon4
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Iscritto: 05/30/2012

I didn't say "ownCloud based service", I was suggesting setting up your own server.

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

Ah, ok. :) But that's too much hassle especially as there's no good way to check for filesystem errors like on Windows. I've lost all my data once using fsck, and I'm having a bad luck with hard drives dying too soon. I'm simply more comfortable and safe backing up my data to multiple online storage services than just rely on my own.

Alij
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Iscritto: 05/08/2012

;)

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mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

I know that the title "cloud storage" is misleading, but I don't know what's the correct term to use. I personally prefer something like webdisk, web storage, or virtual drive.

tomlukeywood
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Iscritto: 12/05/2014

out of interest why do you need 36TB of space?

are you backing up the internet??

if not just get 2 500gb HDD/SSD's
and have one as a backup

i have heard SSD's will last pretty much forever if you only read and dont write that much to them so using it as a backup drive may be a good idea

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

Why not? It seems to be enough for everything I want (movies, disc images, hdd backups, etc.).

I already bought an external 1TB 2.5" Samsung USB 3.0 HDD less than 2 years ago, which was mainly intended for system backups, and while it was new when I bought it, it already started to show signs of wear by making that clicking noise. SSDs are still way too expensive for storage purposes. Also, having my data not tied to my home is a plus. Anyway, a few terabytes of storage is still somehow limited if, lets say, a highly-compressed TV series eats 90 GB worth of disk space.

Edit: Added the capacity of the external drive.

tomlukeywood
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Iscritto: 12/05/2014

this one is apparently very reliable and it has 8TB of storage and $260
http://www.storagereview.com/seagate_archive_hdd_review_8tb

so i guess you could get two of these or more if you have the money

8TB isn’t bad

i think you will have a hard time finding affordable cloud storage that gives you 36TB

i personally think your best option is to host it yourself

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

Thanks for the tip. I'm still in the phase when I'm just toying with various "cloud storage" providers and trying to find a reliable way to do this for free. However, if I have to pay for the storage, I'll rather buy the hardware by myself than paying a monthly rental fee, that's for sure.

willcoderwang
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Iscritto: 12/23/2014

I'm Chinese.
I never use a NetDisk or cloud.
I believe uploading data to someone else's machines is a bad way to go.
I don't trust others' servers, especially some big companys.

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

Hello willcoderwang!

Please share your public GnuPG key either here or using my profile contact form. Once I recieve it, I will send you an encrypted message containing the information necessary for the registration process. Thank you in advance.

HuangLao
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Iscritto: 01/19/2014

Scratching my head on this one...wondering why it seems this forum is getting so many strange posts and requests as of late!

Or am I the only one that finds it strange.

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

What's so strange about my request? Since I'm a free software user, I don't think my question is completely unrelated. I've seen stranger things like sharing cat photos and alike.

quantumgravity
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Iscritto: 04/22/2013

Just out of interest:
Isn't the transfer speed much too low in order to actually use 30 tb of space?

That said, you're encryption scheme might be safe today; but who can predict how things are going to develop in, let's say, 20 years?
What computional power will those companies have by then?
Once uploaded, you can never take your data back for sure.

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

> Isn't the transfer speed much too low in order to actually use 30 tb of space?

How can I know if I doesn't get the chance to test their service? Last night I tried out Baidu Pan, and the upload speed (using BCloud) was ~180kB/s, while the download (using JDownloader) was ~1-2MB/s. However, as of today both speeds are terribly slow.

> That said, you're encryption scheme might be safe today; but who can predict how things are going to develop in, let's say, 20 years?

I'm mainly going to upload data that doesn't need security such as movies, TV series, and various other things that takes a lot of space but otherwise isn't too valuable. I originally intended to create a "cloud storage" that I can mount via Files as a virtual drive, format it as an encrypted filesystem, and use it as an additional storage. Now I see that this isn't possible and there's no universal free software client that can encrypt my data on-the-fly without syncing it first.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/173108-researchers-crack-the-worlds-toughest-encryption-by-listening-to-the-tiny-sounds-made-by-your-computers-cpu

> What computional power will those companies have by then?

Quantum computers, maybe?

http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/03/the-nsa-is-racing-to-build-a-quantum-computer-capable-of-cracking-strong-encryption/

> Once uploaded, you can never take your data back for sure.

Yep, I learned this from Facebook.

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

I just discovered why was the download speed so slow. I used the Copy Link function instead of Share, which generates a much longer URL that's very slow (somewhere below 100kB/s) to download. Don't know why is this happening.

mYself
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Iscritto: 01/18/2012

Anyone, please?

tonlee
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Iscritto: 09/08/2014

is the 50 GB Mediafire free?