Email service with your own domain name

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Binh-Khoi Nguyen
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Iscritto: 01/22/2015

Hi,

I went through the trouble of setting a postfix/dovecot server a few
months ago but hotmail kept marking my email as junk. Recently, they
decided to ban my IP and now I can't email hotmail users who whitelisted
me.

I was wondering if you were aware of any email service that allows you
to use your own domain? Preferably a privacy/freedom-respecting one.

Alternatively, if you went through the same problem with Microsoft and
managed to convince them to whitelist you, I'm also interested.

Thank you for your help,

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Binh-Khoi NGUYEN
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name at domain

Mangy Dog

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Iscritto: 03/15/2015

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-remove-server-ip-address-from-msn-hotmail-block-blacklist/
https://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#Codes

Another challenge with maintaining a mail server is keeping your server off of the various blacklists, also known as DNSBL, blocklists, or blackhole lists. These lists contain the IP addresses of mail servers that were reported to send spam or junk mail or for having improperly configured DNS records
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/why-you-may-not-want-to-run-your-own-mail-server

Binh-Khoi Nguyen
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Iscritto: 01/22/2015

Hi!

Thanks for your reply. I have SPF, DKIM and DMARC properly configured (I checked that by having gmail friends bouncing emails back to me). I tried the links you gave already, Hotmail are useless and frustrating with their automated emails.

I guess I should have specified that given how much effort I put into it, and given that I can't evel email my own family, I would now prefer to use a service.

But thank you for your help!

Binh-Khoi Nguyen
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Iscritto: 01/22/2015

Hi!

Thanks for your reply. I have SPF, DKIM and DMARC properly configured (I
checked that by having gmail friends bouncing emails back to me). I tried the
links you gave already, Hotmail are useless and frustrating with their
automated emails.

I guess I should have specified that given how much effort I put into it, and
given that I can't evel email my own family, I would now prefer to use a
service.

But thank you for your help!

Mangy Dog

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I am a translator!

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Iscritto: 03/15/2015

that site recommends:

https://returnpath.com/solutions/email-deliverability-optimization/ip-certification/

A libre-privacy respecting solution would of course be better:)

GC
GC
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Iscritto: 11/29/2015

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Binh-Khoi Nguyen <name at domain> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I went through the trouble of setting a postfix/dovecot server a few months ago but hotmail kept marking my email as junk. Recently, they decided to ban my IP and now I can't email hotmail users who whitelisted me.
>
> I was wondering if you were aware of any email service that allows you to use your own domain? Preferably a privacy/freedom-respecting one.
>
> Alternatively, if you went through the same problem with Microsoft and managed to convince them to whitelist you, I'm also interested.
>
> Thank you for your help,
>
> --
> Binh-Khoi NGUYEN
> name at domain
> name at domain

Hi. Check out https://mailinabox.email

It's what I've been using for a few months. Completely issue free.

You might need to request a fresh IP address from your hosting provider.

lloydsmart

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Iscritto: 12/22/2012

I also use Mailinabox and think it's fantastic.

Binh-Khoi Nguyen
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Iscritto: 01/22/2015

How long have you been using it?

I didn't have any problems with hotmail for months before. Surely if you use Mailinabox you still have to make sure your domain isn't blacklisted?

Thanks for your reply!

Binh-Khoi Nguyen
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Iscritto: 01/22/2015

How long have you been using it?

I didn't have any problems with hotmail for months before. Surely if you use
Mailinabox you still have to make sure your domain isn't blacklisted?

Thanks for your reply!

strypey
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Iscritto: 05/14/2015

>> Hi. Check out https://mailinabox.email <<

This seems like a good solution, although it's a shame that it's developed on top of Ubunical:
"Mail-in-a-Box is based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64-bit and uses very-well-documented shell scripts and a Python management daemon to configure the system."
https://mailinabox.email/

Has anyone tried it on top of a fresh Trisquel belenos install?

lloydsmart

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Iscritto: 12/22/2012

I also use Mailinabox and think it's fantastic.

strypey
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Iscritto: 05/14/2015

>> Hi. Check out https://mailinabox.email

lembas
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Iscritto: 05/13/2010

One solution might be using a "smart host".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarthost

I'm not very smart with email, so this might be a bad idea.

jxself
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Iscritto: 09/13/2010

Yes, this may indeed be a very good solution as it would allow outbound mail to go through another (hopefully trusted) server. An example being their ISPs own SMTP server. Their own server would authenticate to the ISP's SMTP server when sending mail using a custom FROM address. Beyond that it is otherwise the same type of set up.

Postfix has built-in support for this.

Binh-Khoi Nguyen
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Iscritto: 01/22/2015

Hi Jxself,

This might be a stupid question, but would this allow me to send email with my own domain, and not be marked as spam?

How would it work for SPF/DMARC/etc. validation?

What do you use yourself?

jxself
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Iscritto: 09/13/2010

"This might be a stupid question, but would this allow me to send email with
my own domain, and not be marked as spam?"

It depends on why you're being considered spam. There is a fundamental
question there which has not been answered in this thread. Without knowing
the reason it's happening (and there could be several different
possibilities), it's not really possible to say.

Binh-Khoi Nguyen
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Iscritto: 01/22/2015

Hi Jxself,

This might be a stupid question, but would this allow me to send email with
my own domain, and not be marked as spam?

How would it work for SPF/DMARC/etc. validation?

What do you use yourself?

jxself
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Iscritto: 09/13/2010

"This might be a stupid question, but would this allow me to send email with my own domain, and not be marked as spam?"

It depends on why you're being considered spam. There is a fundamental question there which has not been answered in this thread. Without knowing the reason it's happening (and there could be several different possibilities), it's not really possible to say.

jxself
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Iscritto: 09/13/2010

Yes, this may indeed be a very good solution as it would allow outbound mail
to go through another (hopefully trusted) server. An example being their ISPs
own SMTP server. Their own server would authenticate to the ISP's SMTP server
when sending mail using a custom FROM address. Beyond that it is otherwise
the same type of set up.

Postfix has built-in support for this.

amenex
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Iscritto: 01/03/2015

Maybe I'm in the kiddie league, but I've been using my ISP's webmail services that are available through Cpanel under my own domain names for several years without incident until recently, whereupon my main Verizon email account started to bounce emails from my domains' webmail accounts that contained links, even after I spent a couple of days fighting with Verizon, trying to get myself whitelisted ... all to no avail.

What I do now to "fool" that paranoid Verizon spam filter is to remove the "http://" from each link, replace it with "..." and expect my correspondents to fill in the blanks.

I have not used the emailing capabilities available on any of my computers ever since I looked in my address folder and found only destinations that I had never used ... in a MS computer, of course ... thirty years ago.

amenex
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Iscritto: 01/03/2015

Maybe I'm in the kiddie league, but I've been using my ISP's webmail services
that are available through Cpanel under my own domain names for several years
without incident until recently, whereupon my main Verizon email account
started to bounce emails from my domains' webmail accounts that contained
links, even after I spent a couple of days fighting with Verizon, trying to
get myself whitelisted ... all to no avail.

What I do now to "fool" that paranoid Verizon spam filter is to remove the
"http://" from each link, replace it with "..." and expect my correspondents
to fill in the blanks.

I have not used the emailing capabilities available on any of my computers
ever since I looked in my address folder and found only destinations that I
had never used ... in a MS computer, of course ... thirty years ago.

Mangy Dog

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I am a translator!

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Iscritto: 03/15/2015

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-remove-server-ip-address-from-msn-hotmail-block-blacklist/
https://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#Codes

Another challenge with maintaining a mail server is keeping your server off
of the various blacklists, also known as DNSBL, blocklists, or blackhole
lists. These lists contain the IP addresses of mail servers that were
reported to send spam or junk mail or for having improperly configured DNS
records
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/why-you-may-not-want-to-run-your-own-mail-server

Mangy Dog

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I am a translator!

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lembas
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Iscritto: 05/13/2010

One solution might be using a "smart host".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarthost

I'm not very smart with email, so this might be a bad idea.