explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

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HKR
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I'm wondering myself if it would be a great idea to put some file that explain what is free software mouvement and Trisquel into the next release of Trisquel. It could be picture, text, short video, or speech, or other that explain this.

This file will be in a desktop's folder that new user can read to learn something about the distro and free software.

He could be a short introduction to freesoftware. For me it's a good way to teach why freesoftware is so important to new Trisquel user.

Why Trisquel's community think about ?

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Well, this is linked repeatedly in the wiki docs, it's actually one of the first links a user is gonna see when he click on *documentation* -->
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
But yeah, an animation maybe would be nice :P

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Of course but the wiki isn't in Trisquel live image and not everyone have full access to the Internet in 2016. Perhaps we can make an pdf of GNU web site and put it on Trisquel OS.

What do you think about that ?

SuperTramp83

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> What do you think about that ?

I think it certainly wouldn't hurt :)

Magic Banana

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Trisquel used to have (still has?) such media in the "Documents" folder of the live user.

HKR
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In Trisquel 7, they aren't such document (both in live mode and normal mode)

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Magic Banana is thinking of the version of Trisquel that comes on the FSF's membership card not the normal version of Trisquel.

Magic Banana

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You must be right: I ran the FSF card that comes with the membership.

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You are speaking about this or it's another thing ?

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Great idea.

Mangy Dog

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Iscritto: 03/15/2015

yes ! excellent...;-)

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Maybe the new live image should have that folder in Desktop instead of Documents?

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I find so strange that Trisquel OS is a freesoftware that is proud to be 100 % free (like freedoom) but there are any document or manuel speaking about that in Trisquel OS.

It's a bits paradoxal for me. We need to teach people why freesoftware mouvement is so important. And the first place for me to find such information is in Trisquel OS. (When the user is beginning to use Trisquel)

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This reminds me of gNewSense deltah with ogg song (if i'm correct)in the exemple section:
https://trisquel.info/files/Screenshot1.png

Blag 1400000 had a full load of bookmarks in a similar way that Abrowser & IceCat have Trisquel Forum Donate Wiki FSF GNU bookmarks

Including some exemples of Free Formats & a little guide would certainly be a +

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yes ! Can you send me this file please ?

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Having a short video/audio clip with a brief explanation would be fairly cool to do. There could be longer form stuff (Stallman speech audio) but best not to over do it and clog up the data pipes.

I will look into seeing if I can figure something out video wise but with my usual schedule, don't expect much for a long while. Maybe for Trisquel 9? :)

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The Examples folder on gNewSense Deltah 2.3 contains :

fables_01_01_aesop.spx ( 229,7 kB)
GPLv2.TXT (18,0 kB )
oo-trig.xls (76,6 kB)
ForkingUbuntu.odp* (16,3 kB )
logos ( 2 items, totalling 3,4 kB )
free-software-song.ogg (326,8 kB)
oo-maxwell.odt (27,8 kB)
gnu-and-penguin-color-1024x946.png (802,9 kB)
oo-payment-schedule.ods (76,6 kB )

4.3 MB

The heaviest on board is the PDF doc
rms-essays.pdf (2,7 MB)

Free Software, Free Society:
Selected Essays of Richard M. Stallman Introduction by Lawrence Lessig
Edited by Joshua Gay
First printing, first edition.
Copyright © 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Short Contents
Editor’s Note . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
A Note on Software . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
Topic Guide . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
Section One . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13
1 The GNU Project . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15
2 The GNU Manifesto . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31
3 Free Software Definition . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41
4 Why Software Should Not Have Owners . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
5 What’s in a Name? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 51
6 Why “Free Software” is Better than “Open Source” . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
7 Releasing Free Software if You Work at a University . . . . . . . . . . . 61
8 Selling Free Software . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63
9 Free Software Needs Free Documentation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67
10 Free Software Song . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 69
Section Two . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 71
11 The Right to Read . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 73
12 Misinterpreting Copyright—A Series of Errors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77
13 Science Must ‘Push’ Copyright Aside . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 87
14 What is Copyleft? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89
15 Copyleft: Pragmatic Idealism . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91
16 The Danger of Software Patents . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 95
Section Three . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 113
17 Can You Trust Your Computer? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 115
18 Why Software Should Be Free . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 119
19 Copyright and Globalization in the Age of Computer Networks . . 133
20 Free Software: Freedom and Cooperation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 155
21 Words to Avoid . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 187
Section Four . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 193
GNU General Public License . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 195
GNU Lesser General Public License . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 203

upload here max is 2MB so i have removed the PDF :-u

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Examples gNewSense deltah 2.3 without rms-essays.pdf.tar.bz2 1.41 MB
HKR
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Thanks (You can use framadrop for sharing files)

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I maked a bash script that download webs pages from GNU site (and also all translations availables for one page) and convert them to pdf. After I group them by language and I create a folder for every language and I put the pdf files in the right folder. Here the source code : https://devel.trisquel.info/hkr/gnutopdf

My idea behind this is to create a set of text about freesoftware available in many manguage. And only GNU website and wikipedia are translated in many language.
(wikipedia is the next in ma list)

Now I just need to make a collection of text to download (from GNU and Wikipedia).
What page is the best ?

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I would recommend **not to** use Wikipedia as primary source. Of course
you can include support for downloading such articles, but please make
the program ask for confirmation when downloading from Wikipedia.

Of course Wikipedia is a great encyclopedia, but the "free software"
related articles there are too "open source"-ish.

More than a matter of "personal opinion", I see another motive for all
free/libre software related explanations/texts/talks to be under
licenses that deny derivative works (including translations, unless
these are authorized/reviewed first), that is related to communication
noise and also removal of important information, and the possibility
that the Wikipedia article gets outdated overtime.

HKR
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Yes of course I agree with you ! Now there are only Gnu web site for texts in other languages which are free/libre software related explanations only.

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For converting page I use this free software (GPL3)
https://github.com/wkhtmltopdf/wkhtmltopdf

I'm looking for a tool that convert pages by using the CSS (of the page). (like this pdf Philosophy of the GNU Project.pdf. I get this by printing from firefox (print to file option)) but with wkhtmltopdf I get this pdf (Philosophy_of_the_GNU_Project_-_GNU_Project_-_Free_Software_Foundation.en_.pdf). I prefer the first version because there are just text and it take less bits (33 KB vs 123 KB it's important when we are a lot pdf to save space)

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Philosophy of the GNU Project.pdf 32.13 KB
Philosophy_of_the_GNU_Project_-_GNU_Project_-_Free_Software_Foundation.en_.pdf 119.78 KB
HKR
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ReRTFM to myself ! I can do it with this parameter --print-media-type !

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An example of gnutopdf

./gnutopdf --download list_file.txt gnupdf --pdf

In list_file.txt you can have
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.en.html
https://www.gnu.org/education/edu-resources.en.html
https://www.gnu.org/software/software.en.html

you need to specified in the URL the language
https://www.gnu.org/software/software.html : not ok
https://www.gnu.org/software/software.en.html : OK

All pdf are in gnupdf folder