The first alpha ISOs for Trisquel 12, codename "Ecne" are out
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"We invite all of you to help us test them carefully. Since these are
*alpha* images, they are *not suitable for production use*."
Luis A. Guzmán G.
https://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-devel/2025-May/001324.html
Just wondering, is a standalone netinstaller image available, or are there plans to drop it altogether? I'm looking forward to the next release!
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There was a netinstaller available. I tried and it worked on several computers. So it does not look like there is any plan to drop it.
Please try to use the latest at:
- https://builds.trisquel.org/debian-installer-images/
Releases will continue to move forward so a static url for a specific version might not be the best idea :)
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Congratulations team Trisquel! Are there targets for beta and final releases, or will it be "when it's done"?
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I switched my main laptop to Trisquel 12 (anyway, my important data are synchronized elsewhere). For now, no issue (had no crash of Xorg on this laptop, unlike with Trisquel 11). I'll report if any.
Hello,
i have installed T12 with the Mate Desktop on a spare Thinkpad X200 and so far it is running well.
I noticed three issues on my machine:
1. Mate Session crashed, when i tried to read the description of a podcast in Rhythmbox.
2. When i started Cheese to check the webcam, i received an error "playing the webcam video signal"
3. I couldn't login with my XMPP Account in Pidgin.
Everything else worked fine until now.
Well done!
Chris
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I'm running this on a Think Penguin J4, and it looks quite good, already! I'm glad to see, the installer and desktop layout are unchanged; it's very comfortable. When moving around, in the menus, I notice extra verbosity of the Orca screen reader. That is, the menu title, E. G. "Accessories", will be spoken, along with the name of the selected item. Also, the Mate Weather applet is no longer usable. I could add it to the panel, then move to it, using the arrow keys. I can no longer access the context menu, where I'd be able to set the location for which I want weather reports. This doesn't look like it's specific to Trisquel; It no longer works, in Debian, either. It may be a function of the latest orca, or something in the new applet, itself. I just mention it as a point of interest.
I'll kick the tires, more, and report what I find.
Cheers,
Dave Hunt (He/Him/His)
Hi everyone, thank you for all your work and efforts. Really nice to see that T12 is around the corner!
So here is my testing feedback for Triskel 12 alpha. Haven't discovered any severe issues, it's more about optimization and cosmetics. All of this is from my personal viewing angle, no idea whether it's of any help.
Anyways, looking forward to the final release, THANK YOU in advance.
Cheers!
Running Triskel 12 live (without installing) was nice and smooth, and I couldn't detect any issues. Installed it on a spare machine then (ThinkPad X230, guided installation with hard drive encryption), this also ran fast and smoothly.
Screen to enter the pw to decrypt the hard drive:
* Wrong display ratio (not a problem, only a little unaesthetic)
User login screen
* Very bright background, can hardly see the clock/time for lack of contrast
* The Triskel background image would be nice here, too ;)
Software updating
* plasma-discover and plasma-discover-common are not pre-installed ...
* ... but the Software Updater seems to work fine (has automatically told me about updates)
"Add/remove software" application
* Installing an app works, but the cursor then keeps spinning and the window remains inactive
These packages could make for a nicer basic KDE Plasma experience
* okular (pdf viewer)
* kdegraphics-thumbnailers (for better previews in Dolphin)
* krename (powerful batch renaming)
* libreoffice-style-breeze and libreoffice-kf5 (for a nicer looking LibreOffice GUI)
I think it would be nice to have the two most common GUI backup tools pre-installed:
* backintime
* deja-dup (discovered some dependency issues when I tried to install)
And there are some German language issues (only minor though, but maybe still a little annoying for German speaking users)
* During Triskel installation it says "Which software would you like to install?"
* Software Updater GUI
* Synaptic Package Manager GUI
* Abrowser GUI
* Icedove GUI
* LibreOffice GUI
Installed Mini on 2nd hard drive in HPE Pavilion Elite (circa 2009).
Got updates and selected many packages in Synaptic. There occurred a list of errors. I upload the list in a text file. But packages seem to be working so far anyway.
2 monitors, I didn't like the second one's resolution, but till I get back into Aramo I'm not sure what it's supposed to be.
Really, seems snappy, looks nice. Will play more tomorrow and link it up to linux-libre kernel.
Trisquel maintainers are rocking it.
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>W: Failed to fetch https://archive.trisquel.org/trisquel/pool/main/p/postgresql-16/libpq5_16.8-0ubuntu0.24.04.1_amd64.deb
404 Not Found [IP: 18.4.89.22 443]
404 errors mean they no longer are there, very much likely they were replaced by a newer version.
You need to update the packages cache,
sudo apt update
Then try again.
Hello! When I run sudo apt update and upgrade, some packages cannot be upgraded:
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apt does not say that the packages cannot be upgraded, it says that upgrading was deffered due to phasing. Phasing is a feature that makes it so that, once the updated packages becomes available, apt will only do the upgrade with a certain probability, configured for the package. This makes it so that the package will only be upgraded for a subset of users. The motivation is, in case a package upgrade causes some issues, it will only affect a subset of users, who hopefully will report the issue and it will be fixed, so that not all users are affected.
Besides, I noticed the following:
- if you use "aptitude upgrade" instead of "apt upgrade", it seems all packages are upgraded anyway, phasing is ignored
- if I use the GUI for upgrade, I don't see this, but it seems I even see more packages to be upgraded
So it seems using apt only means deferring the upgrade of some packages, while using aptitude means not deffering. I don't know which way to recommand for Trisquel 12 users. Also, upgrade from the GUI seems aligned neither with apt nor with aptitude, then I feel unable to do any kind of reasoning on which method to prefer.
Because it seemed to me that upgrade via the GUI gets more upgrade, and I think that, as early Trisquel 12 tester, I wan't to help find out issues, in the GUI, I changed the configuration to check updates daily, automatically download and install security updates, and indicate immediately when there are other updates available.
People, please use the devel mailing list to send feedback for Ecne, remember that it is still label as testing and not production ready.
Regards.
I managed to crash an alpha Mini 12 in a VM at some point last month, but after the latest updates all further sly attempts at bringing the system down failed. Only when trying to run STK does the CPU get to 100% and gurugnu tenaciously keeps playing the flute forever, and beyond.
In other little news, a small but appreciated usability improvement in lxpanel has landed in Aramo but is currently held off in Ecne: scrolling over the icon of the volume control applet now controls the system volume. It used to do nothing. So if you tell Audacious to minimize in the notification area, you can comfortably control both Audacious and system volumes side by side. I suppose it will make it to Ecne in the near future.
https://github.com/lxde/lxpanel/pull/46/files
Else, Mini 12 just feels snappier than ever. Smells of another great number. We should call it Ecne 21st Century Box.
> Only when trying to run STK does the CPU get to 100%
As suspected this is related to graphics settings in the VM: STK runs fine and fast on a USB driven live system.
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In Ecne MATE desktop, if I try creating a new user with MATE User Manager andtry setting the new user password at creation, the confirm button is greyed out and I cannot confirmthe creation. There is something written, the meaning of which is highly ambiguous in French, it could mean not to use common names or not to use common words, but I have tried the same password as the main user which was perfectly accepted, and is a random suite of letters. It worked to leave it to set the password at first connection.
I tried the same on Aramo in a virtual machine, there was no such problem.
You need to install the cracklib-runtime package. That fixed the issue in Aramo.
https://gitlab.trisquel.org/trisquel/package-helpers/-/merge_requests/1303
Whenever I want my computer to run faster, I just give it crack.
This should be fixed in the next ISO set, also you might like to update your installation in case you already installed it.
Please, keep the feedback coming as we need to keep moving forward or we'll be releasing in December O_o! (just joking...or am I?)
Cheers!
> we'll be releasing in December
Good! Now we all have duly marked December as ETA. Here is a couple of minor updates from unrelenting testing:
Concerning scrolling while hovering over the volume control icon in alpha Ecne Mini[FIXED]
- Concerning 3D acceleration in a VM: the default virt-manager settings for graphics and video bring llvmpipe as renderer, and STK fails to advance past the chequered flag. With the settings below, STK and 3D acceleration can be tested on a VM using virgl instead. Karts and characters get funny paints in the process, though. Which may warrant further investigation, time permitting.
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I just tried two Ecne installation in a VM, with the default installer, one booting with SeaBIOS, the other with UEFI (in virt-manager, I selected the last option for UEFI, which gives a .fd file name, that I don't know what it is. I first tried with the option that only says UEFI, it did not work).
Observations:
- "choosing install Trisquel" does not start the installer, it does the same like choosing "Try Trisquel without installing", so I had to start the installer by double click on the corresponding desktop icon.
- After installation and reboot, there are 223 updates to install, then after they are installed and I reboot, they are again 59 updates to install, and reboot is needed again. Not a big issue, but could be nice if one reboot could be saved.
- In the VM with SeaBIOS, when installing the 223 updates, to update GRUB, there is a pop-up window with a title showing that it is about choosing the device for GRUB, that window has four lines with four boxes, but all without any text, so the user has no clue what to do. I ticked them all, then it said it failed. I finally ran "sudo apt upgrade" in a terminal, there I could see the menu with the different options. In my recollection, I had the same problem on a real machine booting with SeaBIOS, this is not a VM-specific issue. While there are less and less computers booting with SeaBIOS, this is not nice. I believe that even with "sudo apt upgrade", it is strange that the user is asked the device where to put GRUB, including the different logical volumes or the encrypted volume, as the user may have no clue about the right choice.
There was no such problem in the VM that boots with UEFI (Tianocore it seems, from the logo that shows up at start).
- Regardless whether UEFI or SeaBIOS is used, there is a /boot partition and an EFI partition mounted as /boot/efi, and there are directories and files with exactly the same name. I did not try checking whether their contents were exactly identical or not.
Does this have Flatpak installed by default to talk to Flathub with the FLOSS only flag?