Icedove 128 in testing repos

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Ark74

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Hello,

For those who don't have fear in testing new builds and take the time to provide feedback please join the development list and help us test the next Icedove 128 release.

https://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-devel/2024-December/001307.html

There is a typo on the command to add the testing gpg repo key, you can use instead

curl -s https://builds.trisquel.org/repos/signkey.asc | gpg --dearmor | sudo tee /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/builds-repo-key.gpg  >/dev/null

Happy 2025!

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Currently hosting an Icedove 128 party, no fear.

It first flashed the donate page from the Trisquel website, but I had no idea where that came from, since Icedove is offline by default. Other links get opened in the default browser instead. Until Icedove is instructed otherwise of course.

This flashcard also seems to be available offline: https://trisquel.info/en/legal#addons.

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IIRC, starting on Thunderbird/Icedove 115 (maybe even earlier then that) by default every new install or major update, you get prompted with a window to encourage you to donate, since we replace a chunk of links then you'll get the Trisquel donation page instead.

I suppose the donation page purposely ignores the offline option, and only when actually offline would it give an error when trying to display the page, but since you just updated it or installed it, it's very likely you are not.

I would hope most users would not take that as a thread to their privacy, since the Trisquel website doesn't track you, and Icedove have telemetry disabled so you and only you know you visited the donation page, also it might remind form time to time to help with donations too, which in my book is a good thing I suppose.

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I thought the address for the donation and legal disclaimer pages may have been redirected to some local file as long as Icedove is in offline mode. But this does not seem to be the case.

> you and only you know you visited the donation page

Now everybody knows, so I feel compelled to make a large donation - and to encourage everybody else to do the same.

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Quick reminder, if you have not tested v128 and want to provide feedback you might like to join the development mailing list.
If no issues are reported, it will very likely be merged by January 10th.

Read you there, o/

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I thought maybe Icedove could also be used as a browser. I have not looked into the details yet, but the add-on page does open as a new tab where you can navigate the trisquel.info domain. Anything else (including trisquel.org pages) opens in Abrowser, which seems to awaken a little RAM monster. To be continued...

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> Anything else (including trisquel.org pages) opens in Abrowser, which seems to awaken a little RAM monster.

In mate-system-monitor (for some reason, KDE only shows gnome-system-monitor in its menus), I see abrowser with all its child processes, each with an indication of memory used, the sum of which obviously exceeds the memory indication of the top-level process itself. Also, in the preferences, I see the "memory" is ticked, but there are four other options with memory, saying virtual, resident, shared and writing (my own translation to English of the French translation), I am not sure which one is relevant. Is there a convenient way to see the memory used by abrowser and all its child processes, and which kind of "memory" is more relevant?

Another weird thing: in gnome-system-monitor, exactly the same "memory" option alone is ticked, but the number for the main abrowser process is about 405MB while in mate-system-monitor it is about 700MB.

Besides, I am not sure why icedove needs so frequent updates while other email clients don't have this (I use evolution, which I find very user-friendly and reliable).

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> I am not sure why icedove needs so frequent updates...

Last time I checked, Thunderbird (then Icedove), runs under a Firefox ESR base, so Firefox security patches most likely will apply to Thunderbird, then Icedove gets updated too.
Even if there were no security patch, at some point ESR release move up to the next version, then it upgrades too.

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> Another weird thing: in gnome-system-monitor, exactly the same "memory" option alone is ticked, but the number for the main abrowser process is about 405MB while in mate-system-monitor it is about 700MB.

We could assume that the gnome is lying, or you could install LXTask as a benchmark. I use it on Trisquel Mini, it has an option to include or exclude cached memory.

The larger the RAM installed on your system, the more it will use it to cache stuff so it does not need to fetch it again in case you ask for it again soon (summing things up a bit), so your system will be more responsive. Using more RAM does not necessarily mean "bloat", but may also mean that your system is using your extra resources to run faster. This also means extra RAM is not necessarily useless, provided applications make good use of it.