macbook air 2022 m2 -will it work?

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coyotes4ys
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i am deciding between a few used laptops to buy, and it has to be light and not plastic. i was considering

asus zenbooks: q408ug and others
macbook air 2022 m2
gpd pocket 3 (the one with the pentium silver n6000

apple hardware seems too last a lot longer than anything else, but i'm not that familiar with gpd and it might be really nice. however i emailed the guy and h hasn't responded, so i might contact the guy about the mac, iffffffffff it will work with trisquel?

wifi: out of the box? if not, is there and internal chip i can replace the (broadcom?) with?
booting from usb: will it work? what format/options?

thank you ethicals!
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The people working on Asahi GNU/Linux have experimental support for some M1 Macs. Perhaps you've heard of this. But there's nothing for the M2 or M3 or M4. Apple isn't really compatible with freedom. Recommend to avoid. The only support you'll have will exist despite Apple, not because of. If you're in the market for durable hardware, older ThinkPads are a fantastic choice. They're renowned for their ruggedness and longevity. While I’ve heard that the build quality of newer models may have declined since Lenovo took over, I can't personally confirm this. But the older ThinkPads are built like tanks.

bernie
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Asahi are actually making good progress: https://asahilinux.org/fedora/#device-support. M2 chips are supported now. Although I have no experience with installing it - it appears to be based on Fedora, not Trisquel. Running Trisquel may be possible using the work from Asahi, but I think one would really need to know what they're doing to attempt it.

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I had success installing Trisquel on 2 Apple computers with an Intel processor (so not the M series, see explanations from jxself), see https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/successful-trisquel-install-macbookpro-132

I am not aware of any way to replace the wifi chip, I use a USB wifi adapter when needed.

iShareFreedom
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I recommend you sell that hardware and buy one compatible with free software https://ryf.fsf.org/

eric23
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Unfortunately, there are many vendors and products on that site that are outdated. I don't think a 3D printer is what they are looking for. The last option seems to be the Talos II, but it is expensive.

Maybe we can look to the future like the MNT Reform Next that can be ordered from crowdsupply and hopefully they ship in September. That one has a modules that are non-free like the Wi-fi, I think, but it can be removed.

prospero
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> That one has a modules that are non-free like the Wi-fi, I think, but it can be removed.

As things stand, it looks like you would also need to do either without booting or without display. What is truly unfortunate is to have spent so much efforts to provide fully serviceable hardware, only to give up now on the software side.

"We had to reinvent ourselves to be more useful for more people. The lesson here is: pick your battle. These were, in a sense, ivory tower projects. Philosophical purity will be appreciated by only very few people, even if these people tend to be quite vocal on the internet. I am thankful that there are critical people who are fighting to make sure that every last bit is open source [sic] but in the end most computer users are pragmatic and are willing to make small trade-offs if it means they can have a more comfortable time. [...] But let's get to more fun topics."

https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-7-years-later-why-and-how-to-make-portable-open-hardware-computers#t=1041

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I saw that MNT "picked their battles" as they say, which is, it is fine to have things that need non-free software for boot, for the GPU and wifi and perhaps more, as long as the PCB is open source hardware and batteries can be replaced.

I see a lot more value in a rockpro64, that can make a pretty decent computer and can work entirely with free software, and I don't care that the PCB is not open-source hardware, as this has no impact to computing.

To me, the PCB looks like one of the least important piece when it comes to controlling your computing and I feel the value of it being "open-source hardware" as much as the value of having a healthy cherry on an unhealthy cake.

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The safest would be if you can see the hardware before buying and try booting on a Trisquel live USB. Except for wifi, anything with an Intel CPU and no separate video card is likely to work fine, provided it is allowing to boot any system.