Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

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rsmit168
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Iscritto: 01/09/2018

Hi,

As evidenced by my basic question, I am new to this distro, and excited to be here.

I am running into an issue with Mini. I have roughly 800mb RAM available for my desktop. Running the current 64-bit release installed, the OS takes up about 650-700. The hardware runs an AMD Sempron Manila processor circa 2006. I think this has been contributing to issues with getting to the web, and then crashing the system forcing a hard shutdown and reboot.

First, is there another place I should be pointing the finger for the issue?

Second, is there anything I can do about it?

bobstechsite

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Iscritto: 12/10/2017

Have you tried using the 32-bit version? (Running from the Live CD should be sufficient to determine if that's an improvement)

rsmit168
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Iscritto: 01/09/2018

That was a thought I had, but I wanted to see if the community had any other suggestions first. Thanks.

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Iscritto: 07/24/2010

Your Trisquel Mini's memory consumption looks high. You should first try to see what process(es) take(s) much space. I do not know if Trisquel Mini has a graphical system monitor. Anyway, you can use the 'top' command in a terminal. Type M to get the processes ordered by decreasing memory consumption and q to quit.

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Iscritto: 10/31/2014

>looks high

I am running full Xfce on a 64 bit 2007 laptop and it takes 265/270 mb on a fresh boot. Something is wrong with your setup.

Btw, with 800 mb of RAM I would go with openbox, a lightweight panel, file manager, etc.

rsmit168
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Iscritto: 01/09/2018

Well, I've gotten it down to 500ish now, so I guess we are headed in the right direction.

rsmit168
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Iscritto: 01/09/2018

That is good to know. I will look into it. Thanks.

rsmit168
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Iscritto: 01/09/2018

I appreciate the information. Thank you.

SuperTramp83

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Iscritto: 10/31/2014

You are welcome, have fun!

GrevenGull
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Iscritto: 12/18/2017

How do you actually check how much memory the OS uses? I reckon I may find it in "System Monitor", but would the process(es) be called?

SuperTramp83

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Iscritto: 10/31/2014

free -h

The command is 'free', 'h' stands for 'human readable'.

I like 'conky', it shows me the RAM, CPU, DISK and NET usage all the time, it's lightweight and sexy too.

>but would the process(es) be called?

I don't understand what you mean by 'be called'

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Iscritto: 12/18/2017

Nice! Is this normal usage in Trisquel 8 (see screenshot)?

"I don't understand what you mean by 'be called'"
- I was thinking maybe I could open system monitor and find processes running, but if that was the case, I wouldn't know what said processes would be named.

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SuperTramp83

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Iscritto: 10/31/2014

>Nice! Is this normal usage in Trisquel 8 (see screenshot)?

Unless you have a dozen heavy browsers opened, absolutely not. You are using 3 gb of RAM. How can you actually use 3 gb of RAM, is that even possible? :P

(just joking, but yeah that is some high usage of your RAM. You have plenty though, so, no biggie)

>I was thinking maybe I could open system monitor and find processes running, but if that was the case, I wouldn't know what said processes would be named

Sure you can find which processe, PIDs, names and resources they consume. There are many programs to find out. A GUI one I like much is the gnome one.

sudo apt-get install gnome-system-monitor

A CLI one that is good is htop.

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Iscritto: 12/18/2017

Hmm.. makes me wonder what I might be running, I'll have a look at the gnome-system-monitor. Do you like that better than the KSysGuard and the MATE system monitor that comes with Trisquel 8?

SuperTramp83

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Iscritto: 10/31/2014

Yes, of those blessed with a GUI, the one I liked best is the gnome one.

GrevenGull
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Iscritto: 12/18/2017

Your usage of language is fantastic!

SuperTramp83

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Iscritto: 10/31/2014

Well, thank you, although I don't understand why you say so. Are you pulling my leg? :P

GrevenGull
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Iscritto: 12/18/2017

Hah, certainly not! My directness and honesty is often met with confusion like this.

Totally unrelated to this forum but:
I was at the airport the other day, and couldn't bring a water bottle through the security check, so I went to spill it out in the sink at the wc. There was a man there and I asked him if he would like to have the water since it would be spilled if not. He was looking at me with disgust like I was asking him something extraordinary bizarre :p

SuperTramp83

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Iscritto: 10/31/2014

I see, yeah I love languages (all but programming languages :P )

People changed a lot, mate. I can tell, being 87. I lived for almost a century. Back in the good old days the man would have smiled and thanked you, he would have either accepted it or not but in any case he would have smiled and thanked you probably. Being gentle was normal back then. Nowadays it is not only rare but strange. In fact when you do something like this they either stand suspicious or think you are flirting with them.
We need to go back!

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Iscritto: 12/18/2017

Hehe. Well, yes. The politeness back in the days may have been something quite different, but I refuse to believe that everything was better before and that we "need" to back :p

I believe trends come and go. Sometimes one gets nostalgic indeed, but in the whole I believe the human race is evolving to become more and more empathic (which I see as a wonderful/positive thing).

At the same time I believe that it is insightful to look at history, to learn from it, as to not repeat it :)

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Iscritto: 06/19/2015

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