Mint Cindy (LMDE 3) not yet removes nonfree

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gd_scania
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http://packages.linuxmint.com
When I was in Linux Mint there were some nonfreeware like VirtualBox, Opera, Spotify, that was previous edition, Betsy, aka LMDE 2, when they have upgraded to Cindy they not yet removes VirtualBox, Opera, Spotify against their main channels. I am now instead running Debian, Trisquel, Devuan as current deb systems.

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Mint doesn't remove proprietary software. I think they even add extra.

gd_scania
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But at least Mint must isolate nonfree into their nonfree channel, but nonfree are still in their main channels, which I am disappointed to them.

onpon4
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They have never done that to my knowledge. Don't you remember that the Mint team doesn't care about this stuff? They've always thrown all software into the same place with no regard for whether it's libre or proprietary.

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How about Arch? According to the few Debian channels,
main: DFSG libre software w/o contrib or nonfree deps
contrib: DFSG libre software but w nonfree deps
nonfree: DFSG nonfreeware

Backing to the Arch channels, which are "main", "contrib", or "nonfree"? "core" is main and any others are contrib? I need to confirm from the Arch forums.
However Arch has strong recommendations (yes, just recommendations instead of a must) for libre variants instead of nonfreeware, esp w/o an ownership, a furthermore problem is NOT stating any pools that nonfreeware are of course excluded.

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I don't know about Arch. I've never used it. What does that have to do with Mint?

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Sounds like Mint Tea drinker driver with a Scania Truck that runs into an Arch on the Silk Road..haha!

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In my considerable experience installing GNU-Linux for beginners migrating off Windows, Mint is by far the best choice. It just works, on every piece of hardware I've thrown it at. When a newbie has that kind of first experience - a computer that works better when GNU-Linux is installed and not worse - they are more likely to make a successful transition to being a committed GNU-Linux user. Then, as they start to understand the deeper issues of software freedom, they can use the skills they've gained installing and using Mint to try out a FSF-endorsed distros like Trisquel, with the confidence to troubleshoot any issues that come up.

If someone is already passionately committed to software freedom principles, but lacks install experience, then of course I'd recommend Trisquel from the get-go, because I know they wouldn't be put off by the inconveniences of non-working hardware, websites that behave strangely etc. I was that kind of user, and I wish someone had recommended Trisquel to me when it first came out, so I could have skipped all my frustrating years of Ubuntu with Unity.

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Arch has the two usual problems: there's no clear policy about what software can be included, and nonfree blobs are shipped with their kernel, Linux. Arch also has no policy about not distributing nonfree software through their normal channels.
https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html

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not really an answer to your question but Parabola is sort of Arch-libre anyway (not that I think you don't know that)