New STK versions are broken with CC-BY-NC license.

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anonymous

CC-BY-NC broken the SuperTuxKart game in new versions. The early access tracks license is CC-BY-NC. The STK is broken. DO NOT UPGRADE.
P. S. My laptop not supports those versions. Broken (black) texture near the karts.

stas730 (non verificato)

Additional about games: NEVER add Ryzom to the repos.

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STK's code is all under the GNU GPLv3. As far as I understand, CC BY-NC is only used for some of the textures, models, sounds, music, etc., i.e., purely artistic works. Many of us do not object to CC BY-NC when it applies to non-functional works.

What is wrong about Ryzom?

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CC-BY-NC isn't used for anything included in the game; all of the assets are free. There is an extra gift pack under CC-BY-NC-SA containing tracks/arenas that have not yet been included in the game. Once those tracks are included in the game, they will be released under a free license.

https://supertuxkart.net/Licensing
https://supertuxkart.net/Donate

There was a soundtrack (Boom boom boom) that was discovered to be under a NC license, but the author recently agreed to relicense it under CC-BY-SA 4.0: https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code/issues/2577

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stas730 basically only comes here to pretend he discovers freedom issues in some program: https://trisquel.info/fr/users/stas730/track

He never gives any good explanation and his denunciations never turn out to true.

By the way, it is not the first time he imagined issues with Ryzom: https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/free-3d-mmorpg-ryzom-not-fully-free-i-played-wow-many-years%E2%80%A6-and-i-want-replace-game-free-mmor

onpon4's reply is excellent (as always):
You're such an insane ideologue and zealot. Would it hurt to think about actual reasons to be opposed to things, and maybe choose not to oppose perfectly benign things from time to time?

Ryzom is entirely libre. Not only has the client code (the only code that would run on your computer) been released, even the server code has been released, and all of the game's media has been released, all under libre licenses. Ryzom is the pinnacle of perfection when it comes to ethics!
https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/free-3d-mmorpg-ryzom-not-fully-free-i-played-wow-many-years%E2%80%A6-and-i-want-replace-game-free-mmor#comment-96971

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> stas730 basically only comes here to pretend he discovers freedom issues in some program

Yep. Can you please stop that, mate Stas?

stas730 (non verificato)

Mistake. Yes, CC-BY-NC-SA.
SuperTuxKart team SELLING gift under license NC?
Can I distribute Uplink (open source but non-free computer game which uses "hacker" instead of "cracker") without reading the license? NO
Can STK team sell NC licensed data? NO
We cannot include this program in repos because license is wrong/ignored.
The only situation when I can distribute open (non-free) software is ignoring license. But please, try to contact Introversion Software (in main DNS server in the Internet: introversion.co.uk) and ask for freeing games (not only Uplink). Then contact Ferrous Moon for freeing Onlink mod.

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The NC licensed tracks and arenas are not included in SuperTuxKart; they are part of a separate gift package and are not included in Trisquel. The STK team is not violating any license because the copyright holder can do whatever they want.

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Can I distribute Uplink (open source but non-free computer game (...))

Uplink is neither (OSI) "open source" nor (FSF) free software.

The only situation when I can distribute open (non-free) software is ignoring license.

You are wrong. The very first point of the "open source" definition actually is about "free distribution" (that the license "shall not restrict"): https://opensource.org/osd

In practice, almost all programs under an "open source" license are "free software" (the FSF and the OSI disagree on a couple of unpopular licenses). The main difference between the terms "free software" and "open source" lies in the defended values: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html

stas730 (non verificato)

Download/buy Uplink Developer CD or just read:
https://www.introversion.co.uk/uplink/developer/developercd.html

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What is Uplink and why did it enter this discussion?

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It is a proprietary video game that should have never entered this discussion but that entered it with https://trisquel.info/forum/new-stk-versions-are-broken-cc-nc-license#comment-103817 where stas730 claims it is "open source" (although it is not).

stas730 (non verificato)

Open source. NON-FREE.
Users can buy code.
Is open source means "source code available"?

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I gave you the "open source" definition: https://opensource.org/osd

Uplink is not "open source".