Time for Trisquel 7.1? Summary of various trisquel installations on different machines

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RealForce
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Iscritto: 10/22/2015

Dear Trisquel forum members,

I want to thank everybody for using and assembling such a great GNU/Linux distribution.

I just joined the forum to ask whether it is time to make an updated version of trisquel 7 available for the average user and the benefit of free software on the trisquel website.

I tried to install trisquel 7.0 and trisquel mini 7.0 (each in both versions i686 and amd64) on various computers over the past weeks. I observed that the update via command line creates a huge amount of web traffic for the sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get autoremove or the sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade procedures. The update via the software updater was not possible in various cases. The sudo apt-get and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade results in a question regarding grub2 and whether the user wants to keep a file or accepts the maintainer's file. Such questions and the fact that these updates take about 30 minutes are not good for the spread of Trisquel as the GNU/Linux distribution listed on the FSF page that respects the freedom of its users.

Besides that I observed that the trisquel 7.0 i686 iso create a strange shutdown behaviour on various machines (the computer needs more than two minutes to shutdown). This seems to be the case when the computer was a wifi card inside that would require a proprietary driver, but an external wifi-usb-stick running a free driver is used. The trisquel 7.0 i686 install on a Panasonic Toughbook CF-19 mk1 resulted in a very very slow system. This could also be the case because of the internal Intel wifi card not used. Trisquel 4.2 runs super fast on all those machines. If I knew how to do it I would opt for Trisquel 4.2 on all my machines and securing it but I am not able to.

When I joined the FSF a few years ago the membership card included Trisquel (probably Trisquel 4.2). That membership card distribution was amazing. I wish I could help you updating the various iso images on your website but I am not able to.

I just think that Trisquel deserves to be installable, updatable in a few minutes and not in 30 minutes via the graphical updater provided and not via the command line with a decent startup and shutdown time.

I tried the trisquelizer script as well as an alternative. I first installed ubuntu server and then ran the script. But afterwards the computer still used the only card provided as an option during the ubuntu install: the internal wifi card requiring proprietary drivers. The script did not check whether there was a proprietary wifi card running at let it still run afterwards.

Thanks to all of you! Keep up the great work.

t3g
t3g
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Iscritto: 05/15/2011

We've been begging Ruben to release a Trisquel 7.1 ISO with the vivid backport stack, but it has gone upon deaf ears. That is to be expected though and we may never see a much needed ISO refresh.

Magic Banana

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Iscritto: 07/24/2010

It is not like you cannot use your system during the thirty minutes of update.

According to http://distrowatch.com/trisquel there is no Trisquel 4.2. There is Trisquel 4.0 and Trisquel 4.5.1. It really is not advisable to use those older releases: none of them is supported today! That means in particular that vulnerabilities are not corrected.

Use Trisquel 7 or (if for some reason you like older versions of the programs) Trisquel 6. Whatever the version of Trisquel you can update the kernel: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/update-linux-libre-kernel

The kernel is, alone, responsible for the hardware support you experience.

RealForce
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Iscritto: 10/22/2015

To go into the specifics of the four Trisquel 7.0 iso images available on the trisquel.info website, I tried to install and update them on a Lenovo X61 laptop:

- trisquel-mini-7.0-amd64.iso and trisquel-mini-7.0-i686.iso are not even possible to be update via the graphical "software updater". In both cases the software updater crashes! The equivalent of a complete update is not only sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade but a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.

An iso image that has such a defect is bad marketing for free software and should not be made public.

- trisquel-7.0-i686.iso requires 320 MB of download when using the graphical "software updater". When running apt-get update and upgrade afterwards another 33.7 MB are downloaded. Immediately after upgrading there is no shutdown item in the main menu.

- trisquel-7.0-amd64.iso requires 294 MB of download when using the graphical "software updater". When running apt-get update and apt-get upgrade afterwards there are another 69.9 MB of downloads necessary. Immediately after upgrading there is no shutdown item in the main menu.