Trisquel present and future

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slackadmin
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Iscritto: 04/27/2011

Hi all,

what will the Triquel future be? It'll follow Ubuntu cleaning it from non free software? What about Unity/Gnome 3? Why didn't Trisquel start from Debian instead of Ubuntu?

Michał Masłowski

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Iscritto: 05/15/2010

> It'll follow Ubuntu cleaning it from
> non free software?

Trisquel removes nonfree software, adds more free software replacing it,
makes more usable default configuration.

> What about Unity/Gnome 3?

They have usability problems and require hardware 3d acceleration which
is not available for many users without nonfree software. Thus it won't
be default.

> Why didn't Trisquel start
> from Debian instead of Ubuntu?

Why should it start from Debian? gNewSense is based on Debian and
removing nonfree software isn't significantly easier there.

Daemonax
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Iscritto: 09/30/2009

>
> > What about Unity/Gnome 3?
>
> They have usability problems and require hardware 3d acceleration which
> is not available for many users without nonfree software. Thus it won't
> be default.
>

Will Gnome 3 be an option during install? My Intel graphics card is well
supported by the 3D free software drivers and can run Gnome 3 quite
well... Though reading this has made me worry about Gnome 3.
http://www.christoph-wickert.de/blog/2011/06/25/gnome-developer-quote-of-the-day/

slackadmin
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Iscritto: 04/27/2011

So are you saying that Trisquel will never have Gnome 3? Or free software will be able to manage 3D effects in Gnome 3?

Michał Masłowski

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Iscritto: 05/15/2010

> So are you saying that Trisquel will never have Gnome 3?

I don't see a problem with including it in repos and not installing it
by default. (I'm not a developer of Trisquel.)

> Or free
> software will be able to manage 3D effects in Gnome 3?

I never used Gnome 3 (I use XFCE, now mostly on a machine without 3d
hardware). Intel and some Nvidia GPUs have working 3d effects in other
programs. Newer Nvidia GPUs need nonfree firmware for Nouveau, not yet
reverse engineered and all Radeons need nonfree firmware which AMD
doesn't want to free or document (it's related to Digital Restriction
Management in their hardware).

Magic Banana

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Iscritto: 07/24/2010

The choice of the next Trisquel's default desktop has already been discussed in this thread: http://trisquel.info/fr/forum/which-desktop-next-trisquel

The next Trisquel will use Gnome 2.32 (like the last Ubuntu). Then, Trisquel will use, by default, Gnome 3 but without Gnome Shell (because it requires a rather recent OpenGL support that currently is unavailable, via Free drivers, for those having ATI/AMD cards and unstable for those with nVidia cards).

Notice however that the gnome-shell package already is Trisquel's repositories (that of Slaine and that of Taranis).