Trisquel in Yeeloong Notebook
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Trisquel works excelent in the lemote yeelong notebook ?
On 04/07/13 13:18, volarkp wrote:
> Trisquel works excelent in the lemote yeelong notebook ?
No, because Trisquel does not support the MIPS CPU architecture. If you
want to use the Yeeloong, you could use Parabola or gNewSense GNU/Linux.
Andrew.
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Yeeloongs have a horrible battery time, because some hardware feature is not fully implemented yet. They also have no 2D/3D acceleration, because they use a graphicscard that requires proprietary firmware (it seems this makes every GUI you try to put on it extremely slow).
I understand those Yeeloongs look very tempting, but there are too many problems. RMS uses one, because he wants to have no non-free BIOS (or similar) on his computer. I once saw an interview where he elaborated on how he uses his laptop. He doesn't use the GUI most of the time, almost exclusively reads email and people send him whole websites per email if he cannot easily access them otherwise (too much Flash, too fancy design to read it in a browser for the CLI, etc.).
> Yeeloongs have a horrible battery time,
2h, more than some users need.
> because some hardware feature
> is not fully implemented yet.
I don't know any such feature (there is a kernel option to use a less
reliable timer that saves some power, it's probably not important
enough).
> They also have no 2D/3D acceleration,
> because they use a graphicscard that requires proprietary firmware (it
> seems this makes every GUI you try to put on it extremely slow).
The YeeLoongs with Loongson 2F have ancient GPUs without 3D acceleration
(and 2D acceleration that practically makes it slower with modern
software), the ones with Loongson 3A (not supported yet by any free
distro) have AMD GPUs with a similar issue to what you describe. It's
not "extermely" slow with XFCE, although this makes videos unplayable
unless using distro-specific patches.
> He doesn't use the GUI most of
> the time, almost exclusively reads email and people send him whole
> websites per email if he cannot easily access them otherwise (too much
> Flash, too fancy design to read it in a browser for the CLI, etc.).
I believe his reasons for this are traveling (browsers need longer
network access than batch mail) and efficiency: he gets very many
emails. I don't have such needs nor responsibilities, using an older
IceWeasel browser is ok for me, while it's slower than on new and fast
x86 machines.
I agree that free boot firmware is the only reason to get a YeeLoong
now, maybe except for MIPS development.
all this sounds so horrible, i wanted to use a all free software computer... so whats the more practical way i can use almost all-free software in my computing?
Click the Thinkpenguin link to the right of this text. They sell hand picked, relatively free software friendly stuff. And donate a part of their profits to Trisquel.
mmm the problem is that im in mexico and the import is gonna make it cost the double...
Have you tried how Trisquel works on your current machine? One idea would be to walk to a computer shop and try those machines using a Trisquel live CD or USB if they let you.
3D accelerated graphics and wifi are the parts that give us the most gray hair.
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What's a good way to test 3-d accelerated graphics, using a Trisquel
live medium, on a strange computer? I think it works, on mine, only
because GNOME Shell seems to work.
Cheers,
D. H.
You can prepare a trisquel live stick with the package "glxgears" installed.
This little programm shows three running gears using 3d acceleration. You will recognize if they don't run fluently in case of no 3d acceleration.
Of course you can install the gnome shell on the usb stick; sufficient free space is precondition for this.
>You can prepare a trisquel live stick with the package "glxgears" installed. This little programm shows three running gears using 3d acceleration. You will recognize if they don't run fluently in case of no 3d acceleration.
I don't think this is very good advice. I got no hardware acceleration and the wheels look fairly smooth. Of course I can see on the terminal window that the FPS is low but can't really tell that looking at the wheels.
That's strange; on my machines which had no 3d acceleration, the difference was obvious.
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It actually won't be much more expensive than had you purchased it locally. There is a VAT rate of 16% although this is collected locally in Mexico too. The only thing not collected if purchased locally is the customs processing fee of 0.8%. That is a mere $4 USD on a $500 laptop or $8 on a $1000 laptop. Shipping is about $100 USD via DHL with a 2 day delivery estimate. There is also a 2-3 day build period although most laptops ship in about a day.
well ~$100 more is... a lot ...
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Testing 3D acceleration can be achieved by running Compiz or by playing a game that requires 3D acceleration such as Neverputt.
@rova
QUESTION:Where would you actually get a Lemote Yeelong Notebook from ?
I have actually purchased one and it's sitting in the corner awaiting testing .. although getting 'spare parts' for these devices is neigh-on impossible as far as I know.
I'm curious to know how you would obtain such a device as I have ebay and other sites notify me if one 'comes on the market' and only have got one email in 5 years ?
Or is this just a question of semantics and hypothetical ?
Feel free to elaborate .. & happy hacking.
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Why not buy a $100 thinkpad X60?
You can install coreboot on it!
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It isn't that simple to do. You have to have a specific X60 revision for it to work.
but those are way too slow isnt?
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