Advantages of Etiona over Flidas

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Bubo
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Beigetreten: 02/07/2017

When new versions of less important programs than Trisquel are
officialy launched, it is almost a habit for their developers to publish
in an exclusive web page or in a highlighted web page a list of the
changes and/or differences with reference to the old version.
Some times they even explain the reasons for the changes that were made.
That is why as soon as I heard about Trisquel 9's official launching I
hurried to https://www.trisquel.info/ to find the corresponding list.
Unfortunately, after quite a long search, the only difference between
the two versions I could find in this site and its related pages was
that Etiona will be supported until 2023 whereas Flidas support ends in
2021.
Could somebody please help me to find the rest of the information I am
looking for?
In other words what is the address of the specific web page where the
developers explain the other differences that make it advisable to leave
the almost unsurmountable Trisquel 8 and change to Trisquel 9?
Thank you for your time
Bubo

jxself
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Beigetreten: 09/13/2010

Such a page of differences does not, as I know, exist. But it can be summarized as the usual things: Newer program versions.

It can't hurt to try reading on changes from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) to Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver). It won't be exact but it could give you some sort of an idea.

PublicLewdness
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Beigetreten: 03/15/2020

Etiona ships with a newer kernel; newer version of Mate; newer version of Mesa and most likely newer program versions for various software. I don't know of a specific web page to point you to.

Bubo
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Beigetreten: 02/07/2017

Thank you @jxself and @PublicLewdness for reading my post and and writing back.
I sincerely appreciate your effort.
I have noticed you both use the word "newer".
Have you had some special reasons for using that word instead of the word "better"?
Thank you for your time.
Bubo

PublicLewdness
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Beigetreten: 03/15/2020

Speaking for just myself I can say my reason is to say they are newer is objective but to say they are better is subjective. I try to stick to objective statements when possible. If I were to say they are better than someone could, and shoud, ask me why they are better and without doing a bunch of research I would have no answer and look foolish. Right of the bat I can say that newer kernels and versions of Mesa generally are better to have for newer hardware as they may not work otherwise. For instance I'm not sure if my Ryzen 5 2600X CPU would work well on Trisquel 8 out of the box as it used an older kernel and the 4.15 kernel that Trisquel 9 ships with is the minimum I have seen any site test that CPU with.

diopon
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Beigetreten: 10/15/2018

Hello,

maybe this list on http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=trisquel is what you want.

Bubo
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Beigetreten: 02/07/2017

Hello diopon,
I re-entered the forum to apologize in case somebody feels that I made an irreverent question in my last post.
The reason for that is that non developers like me ( I like to call myself a simple user)are interested in better operating systems and everybody knows that not always the newest is the best.
Thank you for your contribution.
I'll take look at that link as soon as I can.
Bubo

jxself
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Beigetreten: 09/13/2010

"I have noticed you both use the word "newer".
Have you had some special reasons for using that word instead of the word "better"?"

Newer is accurate. Better is subjective. :)

Bubo
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Beigetreten: 02/07/2017

@jxself:
Thank you for answering back!
Our conversations has triggered many interesting comments.
I have learned a lot from them.
« Newer is accurate. Better is subjective. :) »
I can't argue that! :)
Bubo

andyprough
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Beigetreten: 02/12/2015

>the 4.15 kernel that Trisquel 9 ships with is the minimum I have seen any site test that CPU with

Trisquel should consider adding a one button kernel upgrade to the newer kernels in @jxself's repo. That 4.15 reached EOL 2 1/2 years ago.

PublicLewdness
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Beigetreten: 03/15/2020

"Trisquel should consider adding a one button kernel upgrade to the newer kernels in @jxself's repo. That 4.15 reached EOL 2 1/2 years ago."

I would welcome such a button. That being said the 4.15 kernel, while being EOL, is still receiving security and bug fixes from Ubuntu until 2023 isn't it ?

andyprough
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Beigetreten: 02/12/2015

Trisquel uses the Linux-libre kernel, which is made from the native kernel and not from Ubuntu. But maybe the Linux-libre devs are back-porting the Ubuntu security and bug fixes - I do not know. I always use the most recent LTS kernel from @jxself's repository, and I generally advise that other people do that unless they need a different specific kernel for their hardware.

Magic Banana

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Beigetreten: 07/24/2010

Trisquel uses the Linux-libre kernel, which is made from the native kernel and not from Ubuntu.

Are you sure? I thought Trisquel was deblobbing Ubuntu's kernels.

chaosmonk

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I am a translator!

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Beigetreten: 07/07/2017

That's correct. Trisquel deblobs Ubuntu's kernels.

andyprough
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Beigetreten: 02/12/2015

OK my bad - that's good news then. So if Ubuntu sends out a security update then Trisquel should be de-blobbing from that.

lutes
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Beigetreten: 09/04/2020

This explains the procedure, and how it is different from shipping with Linux-libre:

https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-trisquel-made

I need to bookmark it, because I also sometimes get confused about how it gets done.

BarFly
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Beigetreten: 12/29/2014

The Trisquel website states: “Trisquel GNU/Linux is a fully free operating system for home users, small enterprises and educational centers.” In other words (apart from the truly free element) it is a general purpose operating system and not something aimed at a specific user base such as Kali, Qubes or Parrot. As general purpose users therefore, those running Trisquel should only need worry about does it switch on? does it work? and will it break if I update it? Considering all these points are positive I submit that new or better as between 8 and 9 are irrelevant arguments since in any case Clonezilla was designed to overcome any possible discontent. I also read a similar complaint from a seasoned reviewer regarding the KDE version used in MX 19.2 (now 19.3). Makes no sense except perhaps from an ego perspective. Use, enjoy and say thank you.