Forum synchronisation with mailing list *still* not working

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moxalt
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Beigetreten: 06/19/2015

For several months I have not been recieving mail from the Trisquel-users mailing list, except for those posts which have themselves been posted by email directly to the list.

A few months/week ago (I forget when) there was a tentative "fix" which resulted in 8000 posts being thrown at me which I had missed- but that was all in one go, and there have been no more new posts since that fateful day.

What's going on? Has mailing list support been abandoned?

callmeclean
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Beigetreten: 03/31/2016

I've only just signed up recently, and I only get a small number of
posts in email. I assume(d) I wasn't get any of posts made through
forum.

moxalt
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Beigetreten: 06/19/2015

> I've only just signed up recently, and I only get a small number of
> posts in email. I assume(d) I wasn't get any of posts made through
> forum.

That's not how things are supposed to work- the most vaunted feature of
Trisquel's mailing list is that it is possible to read posts from and
post to the forums entirely by email. Drupal manages both the forums
and the mailing list. This is how things used to work, until a few
months ago (mid-late 2015). Since then, the forum/mailing list
synchronisation has not been working, and I am at a loss as to why.

You should receive all the posts which are made to the forums via the
list (or at least this was once the case), and be able to see your
mailing list posts in the forums, and vice versa.

The Trisquel-users list should be high-volume.

callmeclean
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Beigetreten: 03/31/2016

I can see my mailing list posts in forum (takes several minutes), but
not forum posts via email.

moxalt
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Beigetreten: 06/19/2015

> I can see my mailing list posts in forum (takes several minutes), but
> not forum posts via email.

Same here. This process should be two-way, and I really wish they'd fix
it. My e-mail client is my universal interface, so to speak- I am too
lazy to visit the website and log in, so having e-mails thrown at me to
reply too ensures that I am more active.

I'm sure there are other lazy people who like mailing lists rather than
web forums. Oh devs, think of us!

david

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I am a translator!

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Beigetreten: 08/02/2008

Hello!

I thought this was fixed for good since that "fateful day" :)

I'll reopen https://trisquel.info/en/issues/16596 since that seems to not be the case. Please comment in this thread or the issue page if you're also having trouble. Contents of the mailing list "digests" should be the same as those of the respective forum.

Moxalt, I've noticed in particular in your subscription options some of them are changed from default, I guess they were changed in an attempt to fix the problem?

callmeclean
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Beigetreten: 03/31/2016

Reminds me that many not so old encryption schemes, like WEP or old
Cisco IOS password method, could be broken easily by reverse engineering
the hash or encrypted password. Although these BIOS methods seem to be
on purpose so the manufacturer can help law enforcement or customers
who've lost their password?

I wonder if UEFI has introduced any strict standard for passwords? I
wouldn't trust it anyway. Best to encrypt your drives and use an
external drive to boot from if you need it.

moxalt
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Beigetreten: 06/19/2015

> Reminds me that many not so old encryption schemes, like WEP or old
> Cisco IOS password method, could be broken easily by reverse
> engineering the hash or encrypted password. Although these BIOS
> methods seem to be on purpose so the manufacturer can help law
> enforcement or customers who've lost their password?

The former is unlikely, because the OEM/government could just bypass
that anyway through whatever universal backdoor is likely to exist.

> I wonder if UEFI has introduced any strict standard for passwords? I
> wouldn't trust it anyway. Best to encrypt your drives and use an
> external drive to boot from if you need it.

You shouldn't trust anything non-free from by your hardware
manufacturer, or anyone for that matter. Full disk encryption and/or a
GRUB password is far more effective than doing things at the UEFI level.

Mind you, most computers have a universal remote backdoor which could
be used to hijack your computer after you had entered the password and
decrypted the drive.

ADFENO
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Beigetreten: 12/31/2012

Sorry for taking so long.

It seems I'm receiving just some of the emails. For example, right now, the last email I received was from Adam Wilson, about forum synchronization, on 2016-04-09T13:29:46-0300.

I have checked my subscription options to see if I haven't changed anything by mistake, but there's nothing different. Anyways, I marked all the "Set globally" boxes and applied the changes just in case. Now it's just a matter of time and feedback. :D

deys
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Beigetreten: 10/23/2015

Being a mailing list subscriber, I can also verify that the emails I am
receiving are only from the other list subscribers, since the last
emails are from the people who replied to this thread.

amenex
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Beigetreten: 01/04/2015

Checked my mailing list settings ... look OK (digest mode, no filtering of topics, etc.)

My Trisquel Digests seem all to be getting to me, but their content is quite sparse.

You're getting few postings from me, because my Trisquel installations have been free
of trouble.

It is nice to get early warnings about potential problems. I do look at the forum nearly
every day.

Thanks to all who contribute.

david

I am a member!

I am a translator!

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Beigetreten: 08/02/2008

We've been working on the issue and it should be *really* fixed now, but as a side effect, you'll probably receive a whole lot of old emails from the system now. I'm sorry about the disturbance, hopefully it won't happen again and we'll resume the useful mailing-list/forum users collaboration from now on.