Migrating from gnome to mate
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Can I use the same themes and icons that work with gnome with mate?
How can I get mate specific apps to not be listed in gnome menu?
The same icons and gtk themes will also work with mate. The window manager theme (mostly the window title bar) is what is different, as far as I know.
Regarding menu entries you can modify the corresponding .desktop files to be shown or hidden in specific desktop environments using 'OnlyShowIn, NotShowIn' keys.
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html
For example, including 'OnlyShowIn=XFCE;' in the .desktop file that application will only be displayed in xfce.
can logging out and switching to text login and logging in there to install mate via the console. Will that make it so it doesn't generate gnome menu entries?
If I decide to stay with mate how do I get rid of gnome and gnome specific apps? I do not want to remove themes or icons from gnome as the other posters stated you can use those themes in mate.
Ubuntu MATE 16.04 beta 1 is a preview of the upcoming release in April, so check out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/xenial/beta-1/
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>How can I get mate specific apps to not be listed in gnome menu?
To edit the menu try menulibre
sudo apt install menulibre
I decided to just install not only the complete mate but the extras. Only a few mate programs made it into the menu. So I am happy. It was just three apps from mate in the menu I had to uncheck. :)
sudo apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-extras
I am having issues there is no network applet... can't find it in the repo either. :(
Well I am not sure which I like better. I think I am liking gnome shell better now. Maybe cause the network icon works. My computer handles gnome 3 shell perfectly even tho I think gnome 3 came out after it was made. 2.10 ghz dual core 8 gb of ram. :)
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I am not able to have transparency in my gnome terminal. What do I need to do to get this? In gnome shell mate terminal is able to show transparency tho. So I know it isn't because I am not capable of 3d acceleration.
> My computer handles gnome 3 shell perfectly even tho I think gnome 3 came out after it was made.
Whether or not a program works well on your hardware has nothing to do with how old or new the program is. New software is perfectly capable of being lightweight, and old software is perfectly capable of being bloated.
> I am not able to have transparency in my gnome terminal. What do I need to do to get this?
You can't. That feature was removed from GNOME Terminal some time ago (I want to say for GNOME 3.10). I don't remember for sure what the reason was, but I want to say that it was because the code that allowed transparency wasn't very good (caused performance issues or something).
I decided I really like gnome shell better than fallback or mate. Here is a guide below on how to remove all of mate.
I really loved the faenza mate icons so I did download that before removing the mate repo. Command is here. "aptitude download mate-icon-theme-faenza" enter that into terminal to save a deb file of the icons. To install it after removal of mate do "sudo dpkg -i mate-icon-theme-faenza*" without the quotes.
To install gnome shell and with shell extensions(panel applets are now called this).
"sudo apt-get install gnome-shell"
"sudo aptitude install gnome-shell-extensions"
"sudo aptitude install gnome-shell-extension-weather"
Here is the guide to remove mate and mate repo from trisquel 7/ ubuntu 14.04.
http://sourcedigit.com/12228-uninstall-remove-mate-desktop-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
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but..did you try xfce? :)
I haven't tried xfce in several years. Has it gotten better since then? Gnome shell is very fast on my computer so no need for a lighter DE. The only thing that slows down gnome shell is having abrowser or icecat with many tabs open. Currently I am trying suspend tab to see if unloading tabs not recently used will get back the performance of my pc working fast again.
Suspend Tab
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/suspend-tab/
Suspend Tab licenses
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/suspend-tab/license/1.0.2016020401
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 22:49:52 +0100 (CET) name at domain wrote:
> I haven't tried xfce in several years. Has it gotten better since
> then? Gnome shell is very fast on my computer so no need for a
> lighter DE.
Xfce is much better these days- it is practically as good as GNOME
2 now, and polished too. 4.12 has been a great leap forward in terms of
looks and functionality.
What was the last version you used?
I would recommend Xfce, but I prefer MATE.
> The only thing that slows down gnome shell is having
> abrowser or icecat with many tabs open.
This has nothing to do with whether you are using GNOME or not, but
rather with the web browser itself. Of course using GNOME can
exacerbate the problem, since it's bloated as fuck, but... not really
GNOME's problem. If you have too little RAM, consider switching to Xfce
or MATE.
I have more than enough ram. 8 gigabytes. Suspend tabs seems to do wonders no slowness so far. I changed the settings a little cause sometimes I open too many tabs in a short amount of time. I figured my problem was firefox(abrowser/icecat) and it seems I was right.
How much RAM are you using without suspend tabs? Open a typical
multi-tab IceCat/Abrowser setup and have a look at System Monitor. If
the slowness is *really* bad, this may be because you have gone into
swap.
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