Abrowser 28 with VP9 support

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icarolongo
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Abrowser 28 is coming with VP9 support by default and Opus codec support in WebM: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/28.0/releasenotes/

:-D

icarolongo
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lembas
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Pretty sweet!

onpon4
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That's cool. How good is VP9, anyway, compared to the patented codecs people usually use? I know VP8 is pretty good, but not as good as h.264.

icarolongo
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jxself
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"not as good as h.264"

Beware people spreading falsehoods.

onpon4
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Well, that's what VP8's quality is like as far as what I've read suggests. You did see that this statement is about VP8 and not VP9, right?

jxself
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Yes I do. I was responding to the overbroad "I know VP8 is pretty good, but not as good as h.264."

VP8 is solidly better than h264 baseline profile, but the bar was moving to high profile at release so it still remains competitve there. So I was only responding to the overbroad comment. :)

dadix
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I found this comparison between h264 and vp9:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCzbD_IKEjU

t3g
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCzbD_IKEjU

Had to correct you. I always use HTTPS whenever possible. :-)

GustavoCM

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dadix: t3g most probably uses https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere -- I think you should try it.

Speaking of codecs, do anyone here know about Daala?

From https://xiph.org/daala/ :

Daala is the code-name for a new video compression technology. The effort is a collaboration between Mozilla Foundation, Xiph.Org Foundation and other contributors.

The goal of the project is to provide a free to implement, use and distribute digital media format and reference implementation with technical performance superior to h.265.

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t3g
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It's a shame that Daala is taking a long time because the longer it takes, the more H.265 and VP9 become standardized and they gain the majority of support. I do like that VP9 is getting a lot more support than VP8 (from your trustedreviews.com link) and aims to be open source and royalty free. There are worries that VP9 may suffer the same patent problems as VP8.

For audio, I really like Opus and it feels like the true successor to Ogg Vorbis. Firefox has supported it for a while and while it has taken Google some time to support it, Chrome/Chromium 33 does seem to support it out of the box I still find it odd that recent versions of Internet Explorer do not support it as they own Skype and Opus uses SILK for the lower bitrates.