are there non data mining url shorteners?
I have looked at some url shorteners. They appear
to do inappropriate data collection.
Are there url shorteners which do not? Thank
you.
There is https://frama.link
Thank you.
You cannot know what data is collected without access to the server, so the only actual solution is: your own shortener on your own web hosting.
> You cannot know what data is collected without access to the server
You cannot know what your computer is doing, if you have
not verified every line of code which is on it.
In general you ask around. Then about the
software in question you assess if you want to use it
weighing in what people tell you and
how much it matters if the software is
a swindle.
> weighing in what people tell you
People will tell you Facebook is cool.
They will also tell you Mac is cool.
"More advanced" people will tell you Firefox is "private".
"Even more advanced" people will tell you DuckDuckGo does not track you.
...etc
In general, just like you, they will repeat what they have been told too, never checking, never doubting, never questioning.
Most people get easily satisfied with superficial second hand advice. So it all comes down to how deep you want to go. Are you looking for satisfaction or do you want something you can verify easily for yourself? The later is what I suggested.
> In general, just like you, they will repeat what they have been told too, never checking, never doubting, never questioning.
Sure that is what I do. I do not take into account who says what. How
many says what. What are their arguments.
You taught me a lesson. Or you showed you were unable to grasp
what was implied in a post I chose to keep short.
May I?
Mac is cool. An insult to its form is equal to an insult to the beauty of Ferrari.
It seems that using simile, metonomy, metaphor, allegory is not a good thing for talking about matters of computer science. They are terms of the art worlds.
Computers do not seem to understand rhetoric. One of the reasons why philosophy is different from science. But it might be good to let a virtual character's arm move, possibly.
It must be better to give someone the straight someking answer before implying something.
Please ignore me and continue. I don't know well what you are talking about but I envy you guys.
I want to argue, too, with straight words, without rhetoric, interruption, and stuff like that, and a good computer consultant.
btw, Joi Ito who is the director of the MIT Media Lab said "Firefox is cool". Indeed, it confuses me.
This is formally true. Here is the software Framasoft runs to shorten URLs: https://framagit.org/fiat-tux/hat-softwares/lstu
https://frama.link gives that link and another one that points to a tutorial (in French) for its installation: https://framacloud.org/fr/cultiver-son-jardin/lstu.html
That is in agreement with Framasoft's charter, section "For a decentralized Internet":
By offering open applications online, Framasoft intends to promote alternative solutions to proprietary applications that some companies propose in order to achieve monopolies and make abusive use of personal data.
These alternatives are examples of the diversity of available open-source solutions which can be used for personal or collective purpose. In this perspective, Framasoft is commited to foster their dissemination by publishing tutorials explaining how to install these applications on your own server.
Equal access to these applications is a strong commitment: by offering them for free, Framasoft wishes to promote their use to the largest extent, and to give a proof of concept that a decentralized and egalitarian Internet is possible.
https://framasoft.org/en/charte
And here is the next section, on personal data:
The ethics of opensource software is about sharing and independence. Framasoft commits itself to never practice any censorship of the contents, nor any surveillance of the actions of its users, and to never answer any administrative or authorities demands without a formal legal request. In return, users commit themselves, in production or hosting of their contents, to respect the frameworks provided by law.
We do not practice any discrimation among users, so as to ensure the greatest accessibility.
Personal data will not be exploited for commercial issues, or transmitted to a third party, nor used for purposes that are not specified in the present charter. However, users must be aware that their data might be rendered accessible, especially when they make them public in the context of a collaborative application. In this case, users remain responsible for their content.
(Yes: "logiciel libre" should have been translated to "free software".)
Now, one can "trust nobody", that is, assume that "inappropriate data data collection" goes on despite the promises of the service provider, its official mission ("popular education" in the case of Framasoft), its perfect past records, etc. That is the best one can get on the Internet though...