boot-up water drip sound

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iceburn
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Release 11.0.1, Aramo 64-bit
Kernel Linux 5.15.0-119-generic x86_64
MATE 1.26.0
Thinkpad X230, 8GB RAM, Intel 2.6Ghz

On computer boot into Trisquel a water drip noise is made.
Q - How can this sound be turned off ? No noises on boot is preferred.
I've tried through the Control centre but can't turn the startup drip off.

Thanks for any help.

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Which display manager do you use? GDM? LightDM? SDDM? LXDM? Something else? If you do not know, a single display manager is probably installed. You can for instance search "DM" in the "Synaptic Package Manager" and click on the header of the first column to list the installed packages first.

If you see "gdm3" is installed, the most user-friendly answer to your question would be to install and use GDM Settings: https://gdm-settings.github.io

For "lightdm", I see that Trisquel's repository includes a package named lightdm-settings.

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I'm using lightdm so downloaded lightdm-settings then rebooted, and see that an icon has been added into the Adnministration folder named 'login window'. When this is clicked the password is asked for but nothing happens after that is entered. No other options seem to be available.

addn: When looking in add/remove apps the login window is shown and can see what lightdm display manager should show. Still no access though.

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No setting in the "Appearance" tab to disable the sound? If not, I guess the setting must be setup editing some file in /etc/lightdm.

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That was only a screen shot. Still have no access to the controls of lightdm. For something that should be a simple on/off toggle easily accessible, this is turning into another hard slog for me ! All I need is to disable the boot/login drip sound.

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That was only a screen shot. Still have no access to the controls of lightdm.

I do not understand. Given the file name, the screenshot was taken this afternoon. Wasn't it on your system? If it was, doesn't a click on "Appearance" show other settings?

If not, try to execute in a virtual terminal:
$ sudo lightdm-settings

You could alternatively switch to GDM and try https://gdm-settings.github.io

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Took a look in /etc/lightdm and in the lightdm.conf.d folder containing a text file. Also a text file called users.conf

AccountsService is installed but, how can it be accessed ? Terminal only ?

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I have a couple of questions,
a) when do you hear the sound, at boot before login? or once you're logged in the session is it that you hear the sound?

b) how did you installed Trisquel, using what ISO image (11.0, 11.0.1?), or did you got Trisquel 11 via upgrade?

Here's an idea, how about just silence the Alerts on the Sound Configuration applet at "Sound effects tab (1st one), seems like the Trisquel profile might be a bit "too much interactive" you might want to change the profile, or even mute all alerts.

That said, IIRC, the drop sound (only?) gets activated when you boot the LiveISO and stay some time "inactive" 'til you hear the drop, why is that?

Again, IIRC, that's the default behavior so users having visual impairment are aware that they should start typing the installation routine it's known to work for them.
Then the drop sound will be enabled for the rest of the time, unless disabled, I would imagine.

I'll try find the time to search and confirm that's actually related, and I'm not mixing memories :P
But might be worth to look that up.

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> when do you hear the sound, at boot before login?

I don't have this on any of my computers now (and their system sounds are at zero regardless whether I had set them to a non-zero level in the previou session), but I remember one computer with Trisquel on which I had that sound after boot exactly when the lightdm greeter appeared.

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> and their system sounds are at zero regardless whether I had set them to a non-zero level in the previou session

Oh yes, that bar is known to revert back to its leftmost position whatever volume level you choose. We call it the Marx bar. In fact, the only action available there is to select or deselect the "Mute" checkbox. The system sounds volume will only change depending on the level selected for the general audio output.

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>"Oh yes, that bar is known to revert back to its leftmost position whatever volume level you choose. We call it the Marx bar."

Karl Marx told me he calls it the "prospero bar". I guess it's all just a matter of perspective?

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There happens to be a workaround: running pavucontrol (PulseAudio Volume Control) and setting the "System sounds" volume there brings the "Sound effects" volume bar in mate-volume-control back into action.

However, this mischievously introduces an awkward delay when changing the main volume - unless pavucontrol is running. Which in turn can be addressed by uncommenting the enable-deferred-volume line in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf and setting it to enable-deferred-volume = no.

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If I may join this little system sound seminar, Trisquel MATE ships with lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter. LightDM GTK Greeter Settings (lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings) can be installed from Add/Remove Applications, but it has no sound related option. I could not find a way to get a sound at startup on my system (updated from a fresh 11.0 install, most probably installed by choosing "Install Trisquel" directly from the live ISO menu), so testing how to turn it off is not going to be easy. I can turn on system sounds in the sound configuration tool, but never get any bell, beep, drip, drop or any fancy noise at startup.

The lightdm-settings tool also crashes on my system. The package description says that it is currently targeting a different greeter (slick-greeter) which may explain why it crashes on a lightdm-gtk-greeter system. Based on various screenshots (including the one attached below), the "Appearance" tab does not seem to reveal anything related to sound anyway.

For lack of a more elegant solution, I would look into the /usr/share/sounds folder, identify the corresponding audio file and rename it. Based on your description, the /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/bell.oga file sounds like a good candidate. You could rename it into bell.off and check whether you still get the startup dripping sound.

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It worked. Had to be root to change filename but it now starts silently. Thanks.

And thanks for everyones input.