Certificate error while trying to access trisquel.info with Midori
Hi everyone.
I'm experiencing an issue while trying to access this site with Midori (version 0.5.11) using Trisquel GNU/Linux 7.0 Mini.
In particular, this is what I get after accessing trisquel.info:
Security unknown. Some other error occurred validating the certificate.
If i press the Trust this website button, this is what I get:
Error granting trust: Couldn't find a place to store the pinned certificate pkcs11:library-manufacturer=GNOME%20Keyring , pkcs11:library-description=PKCS%2311%20Kit%20Trust%20Module
Can you help me? Thanks.
Still facing the problem, any help would be appreciated.
Oh, I guess I should move to another browser. Which one can I use? It has to be lightweight as Midori because of the poor resources of my netbook.
I am a translator!
From what I see on the project page, Seamonkey is a suite including e-mail, chat and other services. I don't want all of that. I just want the most ligthweight browser that can be a decent successor of Midori.
P.s. Correct me if I'm wrong! I've never used Seamonkey.
I am a translator!
No, you are not wrong but you don't need to use the "other services" if you want only the browser. Seamonkey is extremely lightweight. It's firefox minus the bloat. Highly recommended.
I'll give it a try. Thanks!
> It's firefox minus the bloat.
That's not true. SeaMonkey is the continuation of Mozilla (itself derived from Netscape). Firefox's codebase is related, but it diverged immediately and has never been particularly similar since then.
I also doubt that SeaMonkey performs better than Firefox. Older does not necessarily mean less bloated. If anything, the trend for the last 10 years or so has been to make software more efficient as time goes on, since processor speed increases have stagnated.
I am a translator!
>I also doubt that SeaMonkey performs better than Firefox.
You are free to try both on old hardware and see for your self. Seamonkey performs a lot better. And yes I know it is the continuation of Netscape but from a practical point of view it really is Firefox minus the bloat.
> And yes I know it is the continuation of Netscape but from a practical point of view it really is Firefox minus the bloat.
No, from a practical point of view it's an entirely different browser. Firefox and SeaMonkey are about as similar as Midori and Qupzilla at this point. The only thing that's the same is the browser engine.
And what "bloat" are you referring to, exactly, that Firefox has and SeaMonkey doesn't?
Midori is fine, it's just that Ubuntu (and, as a result, Trisquel) fails to properly deliver security updates for WebKit. If you want to use Midori and other GTK WebKit browsers, I suggest using this PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
Anyway, your problem has nothing to do with that. I don't fully understand it, but there's an FAQ entry here (under "Error granting trust"):
I've already tried the FAQ fix but it didn't work.
Meanwhile I was looking for lightweight alternatives to Midori and found Qupzilla. Do you know it? If yes, is it good?
I know of it, but I wouldn't really call it "lightweight". It, too, is a WebKit browser, but uses Qt rather than GTK, so I don't know if the version found in Trisquel's repo is secure and if it isn't, that PPA I mentioned wouldn't help.
Honestly, I think just about any browser will do (including Abrowser) if you just disable JavaScript. But if that's not enough, try NetSurf. You could also go with a plain text browser such as elinks.
Icecat works, at least on this site, and it runs on my old EeePC, so will probably run well on your old netbook too. That is interesting about the Midori version in Trisquel 7 ...
My PC is an eeePC too, precisely the 701 4gb version (the father of netbooks).
Regarding the browser, I'm looking for one that can load pages completely (I mean without graphical glitches or missing images), very quickly and without freezing or crashing. I won't use it for heavy sites (Facebook, Youtube etc.) so I won't need HTML5 etc., I simply just need to be able to surf the Internet fast.
I really think that Firefox-based browsers like Abrowser will work for you just fine if you have it configured right. Disable JavaScript (QuickJS is an extension that can help with that) and install uBlock Origin, and you'll be golden. Even the OpenPandora is able to handle this just fine.
Ah, okay, mine is the 1000HE ... not sure what else will fit your situation. Midori works for me on Facebook etc., it just has this certificate issue with trisquel.info
I spent last days' free time testing two browsers: Qupzilla and Pale Moon, which should be lightweight but powerful at the same time.
Qupzilla: very fast, responsive and loads almost all sites perfectly, but crashes when the CPU is under heavy pressure (e.g., when loading lot of tabs simultaneously)
Pale Moon: as above, but this one never crashes! I've tried to open 35 instances* of heavy sites (Facebook, Youtube, Gmail) and it has never freezed or crashed!
*: I enabled uBlock Origin and QuickJS as onpon4 suggested me.
I think I'll stick to this one!
Pale Moon is not free software because of unjust restrictions on its redistribution in binary form: https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml
They violate this part of the free software definition:
The freedom to redistribute copies must include binary or executable forms of the program, as well as source code, for both modified and unmodified versions. (Distributing programs in runnable form is necessary for conveniently installable free operating systems.)
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Oh, I thought it was completely free (in terms of freedom).
What are other lightweight and free Mozilla-based browsers? How lightweight is Abrowser compared to Pale Moon for example? Thanks.
Abrowser is essentially identical to upstream Firefox. You haven't tried it yet? I think it should have been your first choice, not your fourth. Firefox is not that heavy, and especially not if you disable JavaScript.
I haven't tried it yet because I've seen it is the default browser of "Desktop" Trisquel ---> meant for good pcs, which my Asus 701 is not (630MHz factory underclocked, but I can unlock 900MHz, still slow however).
So basically I thought Abrowser was too heavy for me, but now I'll try it enabling uBlock Origin and QuickJS!
> "Desktop" Trisquel ---> meant for good pcs
That's not what it is, it's the regular Trisquel, meant for most users, while Trisquel-mini is meant for particularly low-end or ancient PCs (but this has more to do with the amount of RAM you have than the speed of the CPU).
Anyway, this is incorrect reasoning. Abrowser is just Trisquel's version of Firefox. Firefox runs just fine even on the OpenPandora classic version with 256 MB of RAM if you don't go too crazy with it, so if you have something better than that, Firefox and derivatives like Abrowser will be fine. I'm not even convinced that Midori is significantly if at all more lightweight than Firefox, based on my experience with these browsers on the OpenPandora (though that was some time ago, so the situation could have changed since then).
@dany4president
I'm experiencing an issue while trying to access this site with Midori (version 0.5.11) using Trisquel GNU/Linux 7.0 Mini.In particular, this is what I get after accessing trisquel.info_Security unknown. Some other error occurred validating the certificate.If i press the Trust this website button, this is what I get:
Error granting trust: Couldn't find a place to store the pinned certificate pkcs11:library-manufacturer=GNOME%20Keyring , pkcs11:library-description=PKCS%2311%20Kit%20Trust%20Module
This issue can be solved with installing
libp11-kit-gnome-keyring or libp11-kit-gnome-keyring:i386 with Synaptic.
as indicated in Security features : http://wiki.xfce.org/midori/faq
The actual version of Midori available in Trisquel 7 is identical to the version available online as a .deb package ie the version 0.5.11.0 & the PPA : http://midori-browser.org/download/ubuntu/
QupZilla is a great fast browser, the actual version in Trisquel 7 is : 1.6.0 ( jan 2014) the latest release (feb 2017) is 2.1.1, howevever it cannot be installed on Trisquel 7 due to less recent dependency package ( libqtcore5a 5.7.0 is needed) Version 1.6.0 is unsecure and has Bad result , Insecure Cipher Suites https://www.howsmyssl.com/