Destroy Internet for a freedom (if main providers run non-free software)?

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We can crack non-free companies servers and destroy non-free software on PCs using backdoors (Microsoft, NSA, Apple, Google).
But it is not main problem. If the main providers running non-free software, can we destroy the Internet just for freedom?
P. S. We can really destroy the Internet with a worm. After infecting Microsoft, the worm will be spread on insane speed and Internet will be destroyed after some minutes. After infecting all possible systems and crashing all available, the worm will start destructive actions.

stas730 (not verified)

The Internet is harmful for people not only because non-free software. For example, computers are harmful for health if using incorrectly.
P. S. Crashing all available means DDoS systems without SSH/FTP/telnet access. If this worm will be available, it must delete all firmwares including USB-devices or CD/DVDs (if exists at all). Because we need to stop all non-free software.

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Gee looks a hell of a program....wizzkid!

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sadly considering the stupidity of the public, this would only endanger free software...

that kind of stupidity has been around since the dawn...

I guess my point is, this idea would not work in our favor...

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You should stop watching Hollywood movies and learn about the Internet, a highly resilient computer network.

And you should consult a psychiatrist. Seriously. Your will to somehow bring freedom through massive destruction looks pathological.

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Don't worry, just another normal person pretending to have a deranged psyche for fun.

This comment made me laugh quite a few times. because it is so true if he were being serious which I doubt he is...

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But we must to destroy all non-free software to win?
P. S. No, Internet can be destroyed by a software. Just crack computers and create botnet, then crack another systems… then run "rm -rf --no-preserve-root /" or "dd if=…" on cracked systems.

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Nothing shall be destroyed. Users must choose to be free. You do not "impose freedom", an oxymoron.

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Yet again, correct, you cannot impose freedom. Though I think stas730 is just having some fun with us.

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Heather said: here's some advice from a grumpy old bat who hates the world:

turn.off.the.computer.

Get out in nature.

Here is my recommendation for this young person: Lets camp out bare naked in the winter, travel to Siberia,Russia and on twenty feet of snow, wearing no cloth, no shoes, nada. then the only thing you will have is two matches... your choice!

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You're crazy. I second Magic Banana's suggestion to visit a psychiatrist.

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just another troll, ignore

CalmStorm

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We have a WINNER! You just won 100 million dollars in gold stars!

okay but seriously supertramp is right, sta is trolling.

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Super tramp said: Just another troll, ignore

Why would you said that?

I like that kind of trollers. Specially when they are naive,tender and inept in the mind. Off course in the fantasy world of those single minded trollers, there is only always, one that is always waiting and hiding in the shadows to strike down for that moment to cypher your toughness.

Enough of troll book reading for know.

stas730 (not verified)

Internet CAN be destroyed. I'm not going to destroy Internet. At least, now. There is not enough reasons to do it now.
P. S. Internet cannot be destroyed by single cracker. Or this cracker must very quickly infect at least 10 systems. Otherwise, the cracker computer can be easily attacked (DDoS) and Internet will be saved with minimal damage.

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DDoS is the equivalent of a physical demonstration: it prevents for a while a service from delivering. Only for a while. The incriminating packets can be automatically detected an dropped (bandwidth management). If the server crashes, it is (often automatically) restarted. There are many defenses against DDoS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack#Defense_techniques

You have no idea of the resource required to even prevent one single website from working. Mydoom still is the fastest spreading worm of all time. It included a DDoS attack against SCO's website. Well, the website was off for two weeks... and the free software community got bad press for more than that (it was the beginning of the SCO-Linux lawsuits).

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stas730 SAID
Internet CAN be destroyed. I'm not going to destroy Internet. At least, now. There is not enough reasons to do it now.

You gave me a reason to evaporate you with my Phaser, and send you to the other life, You will never reincarnate into this world and you will kept disappearing through the trollers worm hole , designed to keep your kind in isolation, muted and ignore by the magic clan master of trollers.

stas730 (not verified)

Virus or worm?
Viruses must be runned by user. Worms are cracking system and running automatically.
If Microsoft server will be attacked, worms will spread to millions of computers. Just crack and using backdoor.
What about cracking Apple with 200 million of a computers and adding another 200 million?
It's dangerous for the Internet.
Do not use proprietary systems. Otherwise you are opening (back) doors.

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By which door or window did you come in ?

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Read about Mydoom, a worm that was mainly sending e-mails but was also attacking SCO's website (two weeks off, that's it) and, later, Microsoft's website (which remained functional because the worm was disappearing: anti-viruses were already deleting it). End result: bad press for the free software movement. How could it be any different?

And, again, you obviously know nothing on security. It is not easy to have a worm spreading to millions of systems. Mydoom is one of the rare worms that did it. Only bad consequences entailed.

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If you destroy the Internet, how will you continue to post here?

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I will defend the Internet, I could send text, my messages, specially from the distant galaxy of troll.

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You must probably know this. You can help to build a better Internet everyday by creating your on internet provider such as https://www.ffdn.org/.

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Maybe he can rebuild the Minitel for us ?....3615 Ulla!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel

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is he nice to birds? that is the question???

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Mangy Dog

The proper answer about him, Conspicous does he has proper training in washing properly his rectum.

stas730 (not verified)

Worm can spread using backdoors. We have NSA & Microsoft backdoor in Windows.
If someone will crack Microsoft server, this cracker can destroy all files on a MILLIONS of computers. Or create botnet.
DO NOT USE WINDOWS!
P. S. About antivirus software. Worm can crack antivirus software and remove virus databases. Then, another version of worm can be runned.

stas730 (not verified)

Is GCC zero version really compiled by non-free compiler? Freedom is ruined permanently if I'm right.
Now you can ban me but do not delete any messages. And let the battle begin!

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now why would we want to ban you?

Your messages are good comedy relief. Some days this helps me stay happy. ;)

but in all seriousness, You are amusing and shouldn't be taken seriously.

PS for anyone who think I necroed this, I DIDN'T hehehe.

YET!

But I think we should all NECRO at least once on this website.
hahahahahaha...

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How can you necro anything? I find many older threads to be locked. I still don't understand such mechanism, but it's really annoying.

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I hope nobody bans you.

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You definitely destroyed some of the few brain cells I have left, but that was worth it.

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Yes, we can crack NSA, Microsoft, Apple and Samsung servers using their own backdoors so we can infect them with a worm that overloads the power source of the workstation servers so then they break and burn, so at the end of the year we will see NSA offices in fire instead of fireworks.

---- just trolling ;) ----

stas730 (not verified)

We should destroy it.
I will not destroy it but this is message for crackers who can do it.

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Ah good ol' stas730.

I wondered when you would post again. Kind of missed your crazy trolling. :)

stas730 (not verified)

Internet should be destroyed before it will destroy us.

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You must really watch Hollywood movies alot where people are trying to do crazy things, see a psychiatrist.

This of course is assuming you are not trolling which I think you are.

I don't think you need a straight jacket right? RIGHT? yeah... I think your just pulling our legs.

tehehe... ow...

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CalmStorm and everyone

I have the free troll number for him to dial up at no cost, very Gratis.
Dial 1-800-trollers, it is a phone number,
press one after the welcome message, then press zero and then # five times, If that does not work, repeat the same steps over and over again.

I don't think he need a psychiatrist, what he needs is a professional Head shrinker, who is from the amazon jungle.

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Darling stas730

You said: Internet should be destroyed before it will destroy us.

Careful you are not vaporized first, by a Unmanned troll Aerial Flying Carpet, carrying a AGM-114P Hellfire.

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stas730

Come to Papa trolito, I got a reportorial of my thesis for you to read.

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^_^

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Ah... you should have waited two more months to revive this thread and instead started a new one. ;)

stas730 (not verified)

Probably last questions about this topic:
0. I think I will upload a text file with an information about this "critical Internet vulnerability" and how to use/fix it. Which format is better? Is PDF good for free software?
1. (If PDF) Do I need to also upload ODT source (LibreOffice will be used)?

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>Probably last questions about this topic

probably..

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Both PDF and OpenDocument are free formats that many free software programs read. PDF documents can be crippled with usage restrictions but you would not use them, of course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format#Usage_restrictions_and_monitoring

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on an unrelated note stas730 you are wanted in this perfectly sane thread! https://trisquel.info/en/forum/wikileaks-how-cia-spying-every-operative-system

YOUR OPINION IS WANTED BY EVERYONE!....

nah jk just me. trolololol...

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DESTROY THE HUMAN KIND.
THE TIME HAS COME...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzY099ihULs

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You are human numbskull...

;p

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Well played sir!

well played...