Does anybody use BD-r burnning?

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commodore256
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I have a WH14NS40 and even with a semi-free distro, it makes coasters, but I remember hunting windows for an application that doesn't make coasters and I found one. (I forgot which one though) But has anybody had luck burning blu-rays with free software with a particular free application with a particular setting with a particular drive with a particular brand of blank media?

I think optical media would be useful for an archive of software both free and non-free with hope for the non-free software would one day be re-implemented in free software. I "invested" a lot into Steam and GOG. So say if the San Andreas Engine along with the in-game scripts was ever re-implemented in free software, I'd be like "hey, I have that archived, let's bring back the good ol' days without compromising freedom". I like having that option being on the table. Outside of that, it would be very useful for archiving my Flac Files and archiving the Trisquel Repos for offline use.

loldier
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growisofs, readom, wodim, mkisofs, genisoimage or any combination of these are the tools to manipulate optical disks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd%2Brw-tools

If you need a GUI, try xfburn or k3b.

I wasn't aware burning data BD disks was a problem.

commodore256
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It was for me until I read your comment :D

I noticed the default xfburn slider for the cache was at half way, so before I burnned anything, I set it to 16MB and that's probably why most burnning applications fail, they probably default to 8MB.

nadebula.1984
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"...hope for the non-free software would one day be re-implemented in free software"?

Then several requirements must be met:

1. All relevant patents expire
2. Copyright restriction expires
3. The proprietary software's EULA and anything similar expire
4. Any DRM is cracked
5. Any secret proprietary format is reverse engineered
6. When all things above expire or get cracked, the source code still exists

And yes, I once spent some time in researching BD-R(E) burning on GNU/Linux, and I learned that there are so-called "archive" grade optical media. But the real problem is: way before the physical media corrupt, their contents already entered "digital dark age", primarily because of DRM, secret proprietary data formats, etc..

Therefore the lifetime of storage media doesn't make much sense, if we can't defeat DRM, and laws like DMCA.

commodore256
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I like to keep an archive just in case AI can do a lot of reverse engineering work automatically and once that happens, nobody will respect any software licenses and it would be impossible to make a voodoo magic black box with digital handcuffs. You'll know the law would be innovated out of relevancy... Like when the soviet planners openly went shopping at the black market that they said was illegal.

I'll want an archive in case that day comes.

Also Blu-Rays have a way better shelf life than 90's CD-r Discs. Those CD-r discs were when the recordable technology wasn't very mature and a lot of Laser Discs are dying only because the double sided ones (nearly all of them) are two laser disc glued and the acid in the glue is starting to really eat at the media. I'm sure they'll last longer than spinning rust.

jxself
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Although they have not been around long enough to know how well they will do over the decades. Time will tell. Either way it's good to drag the data on them forward onto new media every decade or so just to be safe. Otherwise you run the risk of having a hard time reading them in the future once the hardware's old, even if the media itself somehow survives. Does anyone remember Massbus?

loldier
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Xfburn takes Buffalo's BD drive for a floppy, so it's ignored and not shown in the device list. To fix this, add a udev rule @

/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules

See instructions here
https://gist.github.com/iambibhas/7014459

# Add this line to /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules

ENV{ID_SERIAL}=="BUFFALO_Optical_Drive_xxxxxxx", ENV{ID_TYPE}="cd", ENV{GENERATED}="1"

# Replace xxxxxxx with your drive's serial number. You can find it in /proc/scsi/usb-storage/
# It should be in one of the files (named with numbers denoting each USB devices attached)
# The content should be like this -
#
# Host scsi8: usb-storage
# Vendor: BUFFALO
# Product: Optical Drive
# Serial Number: 303042314133313033363436
# Protocol: 8070i
# Transport: Bulk
# Quirks:

http://www.buffalo-asia.com/forhome/optical_drive/blu-ray/brxl-pc6u2b-ap/

http://www.buffalo-asia.com/uploads/product/931/BRXL-PC6U2B.pdf

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loldier
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Device:
Buffalo BRXL-PC6U2 Mediastation

--Make ISO CLI (from files in a directory on the HDD):
genisoimage -o output_image.iso directory_name

http://tuxarena.com/static/tut_iso_cli.php

--Burn to BD-RE (Verbatim 25GB) GUI:

Xfburn (ISO image to disc)

More:

I tried growisofs but it got stuck in a loop (no idea why):

growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso

https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/1-growisofs/

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nadebula.1984
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Re-writable BD-RE discs are still expensive, so I still use (magnetic) hard disks for archiving purposes.

loldier
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Reichelt's prices in Germany.

https://www.reichelt.de/bd-re-25gb-10er-spindel-bd-re25-ver-10-p107081.html

The price is much higher when shipped to Finland due to a hefty "author's rights compensation surcharge" (Urheberrechts Zuschlag).

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Dmitry Alexandrov
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name at domain wrote:
> Re-writable BD-RE discs are still expensive, so I still use (magnetic) hard disks for archiving purposes.

That is, otherwise you would use blueray discs? But why?! Common sense suggests that they are _much_ less reliable. Is my common sense mistaken?