Evolution remains in my system
I uninstalled evolution, because I don't use it. I used synaptic and choose "complete removal". BUT, when I boot up my computer I still get "evolution-calendar-factory" and "evolution-source-registry" showing up in system monitor.
I like to follow KISS principles, if I don't use it I want it out of my system. How do I remove these without harming the rest of the system? Those names don't even show up in synaptic. I have a "evolution-data-server" but when I try to remove it it says that will also remove a lot of gnome stuff that I need/use.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks.
I believe those processes are fundamental to several GNOME components. Not only to its email client. For instance, GNOME's calendar probably share data with Evolution, GNOME Shell shows Evolution's contacts when searching, etc.
That would at least explain why removing "evolution-data-server" would "also remove a lot of gnome stuff".
+1
@OP: Evolution is a part of Gnome and cannot be removed completely. What you can do is: open Synaptic, search for term "evolution", and try to remove packages related to it, one-by-one. That was my technique I used back on Trisquel 4.0 to get rid of it.
I'm starting to think the best solution is actually to get rid of GNOME, which seems to have turned into KDE-style bloatware, and try a more lightweight desktop, with a more sane choice of applications (eg IceDove+Lightening instead of Evolution). Trisquel Mini (LXDE instead of GNOME) would be one possibility. I've tested some distros with the Enlightenment desktop which is quite nice (not sure what it's default application set is like).
Exactly. If OP wants to follow KISS, OP shouldn't use GNOME.
Xfce + Claws Mail is the way to go.
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Xfce + icedove + enigmail is the way to go. :P
openbox + mutt is the way to go!
Actually, MATE with Icedove (Thunderbird) and Enigmail is the way to go! d;)
Is there a wiki page or other documentation you (or anyone) can link me to which explains how to install and login to Mate from an existing 32-bit Trisquel Belenos system? Or for that matter, how to convert a recent Trisquel main instance into a Trisquel Mini without a reinstall?
Magic Banana answered the first question concerning the MATE installation. It
is quite easy, and instructions can be found at the
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/installing-mate page.
As to the second question, converting to Trisquel Mini, you can't really
'convert' to Trisquel Mini. Rather, Trisquel Mini is an ISO image which
installs a prepackaged LXDE desktop environment and a few extras. To install
the LXDE desktop environment as used by Trisquel Mini, install the package lxde
and log out. A new entry should then appear in the login drop-down allowing you
to choose LXDE as your desktop environment to log in to.
Good luck.
There are metapackages for Trisquel Mini just like there are for standard trisquel. They're "trisquel-mini" and "trisquel-mini-recommended".
Really? That I was not expecting.. The only Trisquel-specific metapackages I
could think of off the top of my head were triskel and trisquel. Oh well. I
stand corrected.
Interestingly enough, there is no 'Trisquel Mini' section in the
packages.trisquel.info/belenos package collection overview.
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mYself: you are very very close! :)
MATE is my second favorite DE. Xfce is clearly superior though.. u_U
I would suggest using Icedove with Alltray instead of Claws Mail. It
even has a content feeds aggregation (RSS, Atom, and that like).
On my system (that have been running for almost a day and where I actually use Evolution), both processes take up a little more than 40 MB. It is 2% of the RAM of a years old computer (I assume 2 GB of RAM).
The problems with Evolution are not to do with its RAM use. They are (in no particular order);
* clunky interface
* randomly losing mail during IMAP sync
* crappy folder support with IMAP
* bugs with the spamfilter dependencies
* supporting some services but not others for no obvious reason
Having switched from Evolution to IceDove just recently, I doubt I'll go back. I just need to install Lightening and I'll have the full suite of (useful) functions Evolution offers. IceDove has its own issues though. Off the top of my head:
* seems to use a lot of RAM
* it made a mess of importing the .vcf files of my address books from Evolution, losing every bit of data except the email addresses, and losing a number of the entries completely
* there are far too many disparate places for adjusting difference kinds of settings and preferences
* pops up incoming emails in tabs, but when I compose it pops up a separate window
I tend to suspect that using any desktop environment wouldn't really line up so well with KISS. Maybe LXDE, but if KISS is your thing, you might be better off using some kind of basic OpenBox environment, or possibly even the command-line.
I guess it depends on what one considers "KISS".
I just don't like to have things installed that aren't necessary. If those are necessary, I don't see any reason to remove them. I did, however, remove ssh because I don't use it for example. For me it's a matter of simplicity.
Now, that doesn't mean that I have to go with tools different than the ones I prefer. I like icedove because it supports torbirdy and enigmail. And I actually like GNOME though I try to keep it "clean" of stuff I don't use. For me that is KISS.
Thanks for the help anyway :)