Fastest Libre GNU/Linux Distro for 800mhz 32-bit Laptop?

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davidpgil
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I have an old Thinkpad T21 that I want to get more use out of but it's so darn slow with Trisquel 7 Mini.

Would you suggest a good Libre Distro and/orDesktop environment for this laptop?

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I use Mini on an X20, which is from the same era. The big thing to make sure you do is not use the Mini session, use either LXDE proper or Openbox. Both are already installed on Mini so it is just a matter of switching sessions at log-in. For web browsing I use Surf and Abiword for spell checking, but I do most of my writing in Plain Text first, then I just run it through Abiword for spelling/grammar check purposes. Icecat and Libre Office simply suck too much ram to be useful.

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Interesting. I thought Trisquel Mini was just a rebranded LXDE. Are you suggesting I install LXDE or Openbox and get rid of Trisquel Mini DE? Which is faster between LXDE and Openbox?

Thanks for the suggestion of using Surf. I was using Midori and was not too impressed with it. Lots of pages I visit just wouldn't load.

I'm wondering if I should be using this computer as a terminal-only laptop... Hrm...

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Fastest Libre GNU/Linux Distro for 800mhz 32-bit Laptop?
> Local Time: December 28, 2017 2:31 PM
> UTC Time: December 28, 2017 7:31 PM
> From: name at domain
> To: name at domain
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> I use Mini on an X20, which is from the same era. The big thing to make sure
> you do is not use the Mini session, use either LXDE proper or Openbox. Both
> are already installed on Mini so it is just a matter of switching sessions at
> log-in. For web browsing I use Surf and Abiword for spell checking, but I do
> most of my writing in Plain Text first, then I just run it through Abiword
> for spelling/grammar check purposes. Icecat and Libre Office simply suck too
> much ram to be useful.

FindEssential
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There really shouldn't be a difference between Mini and LXDE since they are the same thing...but for whatever reason Mini uses more ram and take longer to come up after login. I have no idea why. Its probably not a lot more ram, but on an old system it is very noticeable since you don't have the ram to spare.

Openbox is faster than LXDE, LXDE uses Openbox actually. The difference in marginal though.

I use the terminal a lot and I can say that that works very well. Another window manager I have used is DWM, which is made by the same people behind Surf (suckless.org check them out if your into minimalist computing). It is a tiling window manager. That is very snappy.

Surf is really just the most minimal UI built around the Webkit engine, that is what takes much of the overhead away. The trade-off is that it is a literal window to the internet with no options. It doesn't have an ad-blocker (but you can kill javascript which gets most of them), no tabs, no bookmarks, etc. I have found it has made me more productive though because I have to fully engage with whatever I am looking at and don't have the option to run a game or a stupid news site in another tab.

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> I do
> most of my writing in Plain Text first, then I just run it through Abiword
> for spelling/grammar check purposes.

You can do spell checking in many text-based programs. You don't need
to use AbiWord for that.

gderok
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Maybe Dragora with openbox? Latest stable release i old but for very old machines it should work great.

davidpgil
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Thanks. I'll give it a shot!

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> Local Time: December 28, 2017 2:51 PM
> UTC Time: December 28, 2017 7:51 PM
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> Maybe Dragora with openbox? Latest stable release i old but for very old
> machines it should work great.

Magic Banana

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I would install ConnochaetOS 14.2: https://connochaetos.org

128 Mb of RAM is considered a minimum and 256 MB are recommended: https://connochaetos.org/wiki/docs/requirements

If you can find two modules of SDRAM - non-ECC @100 GHz...

davidpgil
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Wow. Interesting. How does one install it though? I'm used to ISOs ... Ive never done anything other than an ISO install.

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> Subject: [Trisquel-users] Re : Fastest Libre GNU/Linux Distro for 800mhz 32-bit Laptop?
> Local Time: December 28, 2017 3:59 PM
> UTC Time: December 28, 2017 8:59 PM
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> I would install ConnochaetOS 14.2: https://connochaetos.org
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> 128 Mb of RAM is considered a minimum and 256 MB are recommended:
> https://connochaetos.org/wiki/docs/requirements
>
> If you can find two modules of SDRAM - non-ECC @100 GHz...

Magic Banana

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Here is the ISO image of ConnochaetOS 14.2: https://connochaetos.org/slack-n-free/iso/connochaetos-14.2.iso

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"100 GHz..." lol.

Very interesting that GNU-Linux distro!! maybe this one is more suitable for my netbook with 32bits atom n270 than Devuan. (Devuan is too outdated).

Does ConnochaetOS have ShitstemD?

Magic Banana

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ConnochaetOS uses the technically inferior sysvinit.

Lain
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In my experience, the "fastest" Libre GNU/Linux distributions were (in this order) GuixSD, dragora, Parabola OpenRC.

Openbox, twm, i3, windowmaker, are all great window managers that should keep your ram usage really low.

CitoplasmaX
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It is not necessary install these window managers, SliTaz(LXDE) + Linux-Libre 50 MB on ram and 2% CPU normal usage on a i486.

davidpgil
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Haha, I think it would be fun to have a good reason to try to use Guix SD actually...

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> Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Fastest Libre GNU/Linux Distro for 800mhz 32-bit Laptop?
> Local Time: December 28, 2017 4:24 PM
> UTC Time: December 28, 2017 9:24 PM
> From: name at domain
> To: name at domain
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> In my experience, the "fastest" Libre GNU/Linux distributions were (in this
> order) GuixSD, dragora, Parabola OpenRC.
>
> Openbox, twm, i3, windowmaker, are all great window managers that should keep
> your ram usage really low.

Magic Banana

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You can go with Trisquel NetInstall too: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/using-netinstall-image-bootable-usb-drive

After installing the console environment (nothing more) that way, you need to know the light programs you want (the window manager, the Web browser, etc.) and install them with 'sudo apt install'.

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In my experience, there is no such thing as the fastest distribution, rather a minimal net install of any gnuxino with as few crap installed as possible, a decent DE or window manager..
It's all gahnuu and it's all fast but you need to set it right. Using lightweight software is really what makes all the difference in the world..

davidpgil
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You make a good point. I think for now, im going to just remove LXDE and use Blackbox while keeping the Trisquel Mini install. Alternately, I may just keep it as a CLI only laptop. Maybe it will get me to improve my meager bash skills.

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On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 12:17 PM, <name at domain> wrote:

> In my experience, there is no such thing as the fastest distribution, rather a minimal net install of any gnuxino with as few crap installed as possible, a decent DE or window manager.. It's all gahnuu and it's all fast but you need to set it right. Using lightweight software is really what makes all the difference in the world..

CitoplasmaX
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SliTaz + Linux-Libre.

Sasaki
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Though maybe a bit outdated, there is also Librepup based on trisquel7 packages and linux-libre. With that you can wake up any old computer.

iso here https://archive.org/details/librepup-6.0.2.0

forul thread http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101106

librepup.info is now a dead link