That feeling of sadness when you learn...

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onpon4
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Ignorance really is a bliss sometimes.

Just recently, someone pointed out to me on another forum that SCI games (one of the engines ScummVM supports) include programs (scripts), and that playing these games is no better than playing proprietary software games on emulators. He also pointed out that Ren'Py visual novels have the same problem. And... my investigation shows me, without a doubt, that this is the correct conclusion: proprietary ScummVM games are no good, and neither are proprietary Ren'Py games. Which means, I have to abandon all of the visual novels I have ever read, two of which I really liked, and one of my favorite games, which is a proprietary SCI game.

Oh, well. At least abandoning these games and visual novels is better than having cognitive dissonance... and on the bright side, that's a lot less stuff I have to include in my regular backups.

pizzaiolo
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Add it to the Rejected games list please :)

onpon4
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That list comes from LibreGameWiki, where the list in question is of games that have been suggested, and found to not be completely libre. Honestly, I don't see why it was copied to the Trisquel wiki in the first place.

pizzaiolo
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They're games that are sometimes confused with free software or have unclear licensing. I thought it would be a good idea to have this information readily available to Trisquel users to avoid questions like "is game X fully free?"

danieru
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I find that kind of question pretty easy to answer:
+ is game X fully free?
- no, but there's X clone.
+ ok.

Even with that wiki page people will do that kind of questions anyway because not everyone read the wiki, specially newcomers.

JadedCtrl
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It is rather sad...
There aren't many free software visual novels-- I only know of two: Camelia Girls and Katawa Shoujo... And neither are particularly interesting.

onpon4
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> Katawa Shoujo

No, that's one of the ones I had to do away with. Katawa Shoujo is under a non-commercial, no-derivatives license. Not only that, the source code to the scripts isn't included, only compiled bytecode. In fact, all of the other visual novels I had to toss are better than Katawa Shoujo, because they at least included the .rpy source files, and one of them allowed non-commercial modifications.

Ren'Py scripts are definitely programs; the syntax allows pure Python code, at least. So Ren'Py visual novels that are not under libre software licenses (i.e. most of them) have to be rejected.

JadedCtrl
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Oh, I thought only the art assets were non-free for Katawa Shoujo. My bad.

tdlnx

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I don't know if this is up your alley, but you can give Gargoyle a try. It's in the Trisquel repo as gargoyle-free I think. Then you can head over to http://ifarchive.org/ and download interactive fiction to your heart's content.