The first beta ISOs for Trisquel 12 are out, getting closer

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Ark74

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It’s been a busy couple of weeks for Trisquel 12 (Ecne).
We’ve progressed through a focused task list and, naturally, each step reveals new details to polish which kept us busy.

I'm happy to share that we’re moving out of Alpha and into Beta after a couple of iterations.
Progress is faster, and we believe we’ve fixed several, if not most, of the issues seen in previous ISO sets.

Known pending items

  • Netinstall localization (l10n) improvements.
  • Final artwork (will only ship with the stable release)

We appreciate your support in Testing, Development, Documentation and of course Donations.

Please help us test and report any issues you find.

Latest testing ISOs

We are getting closer and closer, I hope you think it too.

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Thank you Trisquel. Thank you Libre-Linux!

Can you guys please help us, and maybe correlate your updates, with the upstream source. I know it's based on noble, but now I am trying to discover bug reports(and change logs) for Ubuntu, that might be helpful, for fixing trisquel. Maybe like a link to the release notes, of the Ubuntu version, that correspond to the current package set? It's hard to follow these changes, so maybe if you put them close together, it will be easy for people to find. (I'm worried about the new changes, such as to x11/the kernel, and want to follow them as closely as I can) It's very confusing, from the outside looking in. They have like this complex of different versions, and package sources.

(in my experience there is rarely reporting, for serious issues in general)(so just having a timeline of events is really important)

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> Can you guys please help us, and maybe correlate your updates, with the upstream source.

I don't think I get what you are asking, as all the packages correlate to upstream Ubuntu.

If you want to check the changes we apply please head to the Trisquel's Gitlab instance, more specifically to the package-helpers one[1], as there are made 95% of the modifications done to the packages from Ubuntu.
There are several places on the documentation that explain the process, one that comes to mind is: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/package-helpers
That might get you a clue on where to look for things, if you are interested on knowing more on the development are please sing up to the Trisquel development mailing list and there we can expand on the subject.

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[1] https://gitlab.trisquel.org/trisquel/package-helpers

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Well I don't know exactly, cause I tend to follow the other projects development I guess...

the LTS 24.04 announcement (noble is a very big release, with alot of changes on the way)
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-04-lts-noble-numbat-release-notes/39890

the point upgrade to 24.04 -> 24.04.3
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-04-3-lts-released/65764

They switched their forum to the new discourse version from it's old version
which was located at ubuntuforums.org

So now the new forums are at the "discourse.ubuntu.com" domain

Here's actually a list of all the changes for each point release for noble

https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-point-release-changes/47565

So what I meant was that a link like one of those would be helpful, maybe there are other sources with similar information that would be appropriate. As far as I can tell they're releasing all these summaries on the discourse domain primarily..

Actually it looks like the new discourse forums function without javascript... that's pretty sweet, and it's even easier to read.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/08/08/ubuntu_24043_quietly_slips_out/

Ubuntu 24.04 "Noble Numbat" appeared in late April last year, just a couple of weeks after a delayed beta version. This appeared about two weeks late because of the zx library backdoor in March 2024. Other delays have plagued the Noble release cycle. The upgrade from the previous interim release was delayed, too. Then, in August, the first point release was held back two weeks. Six months ago, there was a one-week delay in the release of version 24.04.2.

Theyre actually starting to discover backdoors from upstream maintainers, (2024-2025) that's new.

It'd be nice even if you guys had any alternate sources of information. The primary search engines like google/duckduckgo direct us to the same stuff repeatedly, such as the discourse.ubuntu forums or theregister.com.

Also I found this post about jammy ubuntu 22.04
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-22-04-5-final-point-release-delayed-until-september-12/47480

The last point release for jammy 22.04.5, was released almost 1 year ago, last september. I didn't even know that. That's extremely important to note, jammy is extremely stable as far as distro's go, and has generally well tested packages, with tons of support, but, that also means there will be vulnerabilities... If we don't talk about this stuff, we won't think about it.

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This thread might not be the right place to discuss it, please join the development mailing list.

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Good news! We have Beta versions by Toutatis!

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Woohoo! One step closer to release. Great job guys!

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Hello,

I just tested Trisquel 12 mini on a HP Compaq 8000 Elite, without any problem.

Thank you!

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New in Trisquel 12:
Trisquel sources have moved to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trisquel.sources

trisquel@trisquel:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# Trisquel sources have moved to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trisquel.sources
trisquel@trisquel:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trisquel.sources 
# Trisquel repositories for supported software and updates
Types: deb
URIs: https://archive.trisquel.org/trisquel/
Suites: ecne ecne-updates ecne-security
Components: main
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/trisquel-archive-keyring.gpg

# Source package repositories
Types: deb-src
URIs: https://archive.trisquel.org/trisquel/
Suites: ecne ecne-updates ecne-security
Components: main
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/trisquel-archive-keyring.gpg

# Optional backports repository
Enabled: no
Types: deb deb-src
URIs: https://archive.trisquel.org/trisquel/
Suites: ecne-backports
Components: main
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/trisquel-archive-keyring.gpg
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Yeah, as of right now we are migrating to it.

There are some quirks to it on the iso, but should be cleaned in the coming days.

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Trisquel 12 Ecne 4K Screenshots (3840x2160)

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that looks great guys, I hope everything is going well for you...

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I got an issue with Trisquel Ecne
I am using a Dell Latitude E6400. The hardware is similar to the x200, maybe somebody can test it on this notebook.
On my workstation there is no such problem.

Problem:
When running "display" and clicking on the window X crashes and take me back to lightdm login.

I can't see any error message. Maybe somebody can help.

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knife

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I set up this documentation. It didn't work for me on Ecne.

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It could be related to the new mesa version (25.0.7 vs 24.2.8), which seems to have caused similar problems to other users.

It may also interfere with VM installs, as reported there:

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/first-alpha-isos-trisquel-12-codename-ecne-are-out-0#comment-180739

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Thanks for the feedback.

I don't use a VM.

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Great news everyone!

The netinstall has received a modest but working implementation for the l10n detection and setup via pkgsel & tasksel.
So you no longer end with a English-only system when choosing your l10n.

Please help us test it on a VM, and let us know if it works for you as it did for us.

You can find the latest netinstall at: https://builds.trisquel.org/debian-installer-images/
Or, even simpler, as text installation option at the testing ISOs: https://cdbuilds.trisquel.org/ecne/

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Hello! In the LiveCD (I don’t remember if it has a better name, sorry), if I try to do some Python stuff, I can’t have pip. I tried to install python3-venv, I get:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
python3.12-venv : Depends: python3-pip-whl (>= 22.2) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Is this just a problem in the LiveCD, or is it a problem with Trisquel 12?

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pip distributes nonfree software.

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Over 10% of Python packages on PyPI are distributed without a license

https://web.archive.org/web/20250604061219/https://snyk.io/blog/over-10-of-python-packages-on-pypi-are-distributed-without-any-license/

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I did not know that, it is concerning indeed. Thank you for the link.

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Beta 2 ISO set

As of today, 08/20/2025 there is a new ISO set that should integrate the last fixes into this set.

Find the now at:
https://cdbuilds.trisquel.org/ecne/

Test them and let us know how they work for you.

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triskel_12.0_amd64.iso - everything works fine for me ㅎㅎ

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Hi all, I am a Debian Developer who's gotten interested in Trisquel by way of Guix :) I maintain FreeCAD among other things.

During the development of Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, I was distracted and didn't notice FreeCAD had been removed from Debian Testing and therefore didn't make it into the release. This of course is pretty bad; in Ubuntu it's possible to work around this using the snaps, but if it's possible and not too late, I'd like to fix the problem for the Trisquel 12 release, so it's available in the archive.

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Thanks for the heads-up. The version currently available in Trixie may be a good candidate to make it into Trisquel 12.

The best way to make sure it comes back in the repo is probably to open an issue in the package-helpers section of the tracker.

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Hello Trisquel! I’ve just finished installing the beta on my previous Guix System. I don’t have any feelings against Guix. There were 2 reasons:
1. I’m doing some development work for in-house Trisquel packages.
2. Shepherd was crashing immediately on boot, and I did not feel comfortable running an ancient generation of the system. Plus, it got garbage-collected.

So, I downloaded the beta iso and booted it. Here are a few notes.

First, about the LiveCD.

1. When I want to select my keyboard layout, I get two identical rows for each keyboard item. It’s a bit confusing.
2. When I want to select the locales (useless for the liveCD I know), it tells me it can install more. OK, I click install. After the install dialog finishes, the new locales don’t appear in the list. I have to use the button to uninstall a specific one and then again to reinstall it before it appears in the list.

Now, graphical installation.

3. I had a bizarre setup with 2 encrypted devices. Since I experimented a bit, I ended up with a crypto device that was not backed by any physical partition on the drive. I think this is why my first attempt to fully install the system ended up with a message saying grub-install failed. Sorry, this is difficult to reproduce.

I thought I could bypass the problem with a console installation.

4. I can select the French, BÉPO AFNOR keyboard layout, but when I use it for the system name, it defaults to QWERTY. If I select the BÉPO Latin-1 only, I have almost the same layout (straight apostrophe aside) but it works. BÉPO AFNOR is newer than BÉPO Latin-1, so I guess this is the problem here. Nonetheless, it feels wrong that the console installer lists a layout it can’t use.
5. Console installation failed at the tasksel step, until I unkchecked any desktop option. If I open a terminal and run from the /target chroot, it works, so I don’t exactly know why it failed.

Since console installation ended up working, I rebooted.

6. I was immediately welcomed with cryptsetup not finding its device. I ran the LiveCD again, to set up the chroot and investigate. The device UUID that failed to unlock was incorrect, but /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab were correct for the UUID, not for the cryptsetup device mapper label. I fixed it, ran update-initramfs -u, grub-install, and rebooted.
7. The crypto device unlocked, but another non-encrypted drive failed the FSCK. In the emergency shell, I ran the systemctl status command in https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=223633 and it told me there was an unknown option. Oops, I forgot to format it at installation (maybe I even unchecked the checkbox, can’t remember). It was created with too recent an ext4 driver. In the emergency shell, I ran mkfs.ext4, fixed the UUID in fstab, and rebooted.

Finally I could log in, set up my session with the correct keyboard layout, and here I am!

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l10n

  • Live ISO with l10n packages pre-installed: Mate only,
    other ISOs use English and Spanish only.
  • Netinstall (debian-installer) - Any flavor receives basic l10n setup.

netinstall

  • UEFI machines failing grub-install(ation) - Fixed!

Anything else I'm missing?

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In Trisquel 12 Mini (beta 2), both trisquel-app-install.desktop and trisquel-app-install-xfce.desktop are present in /usr/share/applications, so Add/remove applications appears twice in the main menu. Removing either .desktop file also removes the redundant menu entry.

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ADDENDUM: after checking Trisquel 12 MATE (beta 2), it appears that both .desktop files are also present in /usr/share/applications, but here only one menu entry is created so there is no visible difference.

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Interesting, will take a look.

Thanks.

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Hello to all Trisquel forum members and users. I have a question: when exactly is the stable release of version 12 expected? And how many bugs are left to fix before the stable release? Thank you.

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> I have a question: when exactly is the stable release of version 12 expected?

There is no set date. Trisquel is a community driven project; releases depend on community collaboration testing, reporting, documenting, donating, etc. The release model is: when it’s ready!

> And how many bugs are left to fix before the stable release?

Just a few. The main and more problematic issues have been solved, but there are still some small details that people find and that require fixing, and we're working to iron those out.
The current ISOs still show one last important issue, but if you install all available updates it should go away on the installed system; IIRC, it also disappears on the live ISO until you reboot.

Noble is a stable base, and Trisquel 12 - Ecne, which is based on it, is already very stable as well. The installers have been the main area we’ve been fixing at this late stage.

I use T12 as my daily driver to continue its development and to keep fixing the last issues users find and report.
Feel free to join the community testing the ISOs, you might find it interesting.

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im not sure if this is the right place to post this or not, but i was testing the beta of ecne and when trying to use the program "mypaint" it immediately crashes when i open and try to draw. not sure if its an issue with the package or the program itself

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I also installed the mypaint program on my device, and I also have a segmentation fault when trying to scribble something on the canvas, the error is really related to the operation of the program itself.

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Try installing,

mesa-vulkan-drivers

then try to open the application again, if it is the case that it's get solved, then it's a bug that has been solved on over the weekend, the next beta ISO will bring those updates applied on it, any app related to segmentation fault, might be related to this fix.

You can confirm installing the mesa-vulkan-drivers.

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mesa-vulkan-drivers is already installed, mypaint doesnt work with or without it

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please update (use the trisquel.org mirror)

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Thanks, Ark74!
Now the patch is available in the repository:

sudo apt update
apt list --upgradable

mypaint-data-extras/ecne,ecne-updates 2.0.1-10build2trisquel1 all [upgradable from: 2.0.1-10build2]
mypaint-data/ecne,ecne-updates 2.0.1-10build2trisquel1 all [upgradable from: 2.0.1-10build2]
mypaint/ecne,ecne-updates 2.0.1-10build2trisquel1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.0.1-10build2]

Update your system and use MyPaint!

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nice! it's totally is working now!

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See this:

APT installation of mypaint crashes:
https://github.com/mypaint/mypaint/issues/1253#issuecomment-3047778794

MyPaint fixed it and Debian released a patch.

But for now you can use this:

OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 mypaint
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Nice catch!

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thanks to trisquel now I was forced after probably a decade of deliberately avoiding *The buntu* to go audit it, now I feel like I am very sick just from coming near it's presence, it's very aura conveys disease

Thanks ALOT Trisquel : D

I said trisquel is the best version on the entire internet of it, I tested ecne for awhile, it doesn't suffer anywhere near as many problems as the upstream, now I've moved into a Gnu linux already... I'm always flying around gnulinux land like I'm on a space ship