How to do [these things] on Trisquel - a newbie help

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Hello all,

Recently I spoke on fsf forums that I do not use Trisquel because I do not have compatible hardware, but since Trisquel 11 came out I decided to buy supported external ethernet card which will work with this awesome OS and as a complete newbie I have some questions.
1. I am coming from Debian 11 and I want to ask if there is alternative to proprietary package of Debian called firmware-amd-graphics. Without this my desktop experiences screen tearing. If you need more information regarding this issue I will give whatever is needed.
2. I understand that Trisquel has its own browser which is forked from Firefox. Before this I used Firefox and only thing I need on Abrowser is specific extension which saves whole pages in a single html file. The extension is called "Save page WE" and it is GPLv2. My questions is: Is there any way how to install this extension to a Abrowser? OR is there alternative to this for Abrowser? OR and this is only newbie question - is it possible to install Firefox on Trisquel for this purpose please?
3. This one is rather quick - why is there no ISO with XFCE? Is it not supported/not used much by Trisquel community?
4. I want to try NET install. Is there any guides or tutorials which I can consult and get more info on how to do it?

Thank you all for your answers, I am happy to be here.

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1. I am coming from Debian 11 and I want to ask if there is alternative to proprietary package of Debian called firmware-amd-graphics. Without this my desktop experiences screen tearing. If you need more information regarding this issue I will give whatever is needed.

I wish! AMD's firmware remains proprietary. Aside from trying a new kernel, you'd just need to put up with the screen tearing unless someone else has a better idea. I wonder if a different graphics card would be a wise idea.

2. I understand that Trisquel has its own browser which is forked from Firefox. Before this I used Firefox and only thing I need on Abrowser is specific extension which saves whole pages in a single html file. The extension is called "Save page WE" and it is GPLv2. My questions is: Is there any way how to install this extension to a Abrowser? OR is there alternative to this for Abrowser? OR and this is only newbie question - is it possible to install Firefox on Trisquel for this purpose please?

Doesn't that "add" button work for you? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/save-page-we/

> is it possible to install Firefox on Trisquel for this purpose please?

Please don't install non-free software on your computer. For your freedom's sake.

3. This one is rather quick - why is there no ISO with XFCE? Is it not supported/not used much by Trisquel community?

XFCE is available in the repos. I don't know that it necessarily makes sense to make a different ISO for every potential desktop environment?

4. I want to try NET install. Is there any guides or tutorials which I can consult and get more info on how to do it?

If you come from Debian you should find that the netinstall is the exact same installer used by Debian and so it should seem familiar already?

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Welcome to Trisquel!

Without this my desktop experiences screen tearing.
Which graphic cards are you using?

Is there any way how to install this extension to a Abrowser?
You can go to its page and click on "Add to firefox". The same should work for any firefox extension (but if you search from firefox pages, check the license).

why is there no ISO with XFCE?
I don't know why but you can get XFCE by installing the xfce4 and xfce4-goodies packages.

I want to try NET install. Is there any guides or tutorials
I could only find https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/%EF%BB%BFinstallation-de-trisquel-netinstall-en-mode-texte from 2016 in French. However, it is mostly a list of screen captures and the text in each screen looks straightforward to me. So you could try it directly and ask here if any doubt.

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There is a WIP project by joe to have a new site for addons (maybe replace https://trisquel.info/en/browser) you can browse the code here:
https://gitlab.trisquel.org/joeall/mozzarella/

And find a preview site here:
https://mozzarella.joeyallard.com/

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On tearing, you can enable modesetting so your resolution matches the one native for your display but you won't get hardware acceleration.

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Thank you for all of your comments. So my issues 2, 3, 4 has been answered.
2. I am happy to hear that extensions from Firefox works with Abrowser.
3. & 4. I will install it with help of that french guide, but it looks very similiar to Debians, so I hope it won't be much trouble. Also regarding XFCE - I will try to NET iso install and on the last option screen, install no desktop - after that will finish, I will run sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-goodies packages and see what will happen

about graphic card - I am currently not at home, but I will post lspci as soon as I get home, just wanted to say thank you for quick anwsers so far.

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So here I am and here is output of lspci | grep VGA
06:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series]

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I take it as there is no solution to this... and without firmware my eyes will hurt. Is there at least some list of fully working GPUs? (working without fragments)

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h-node might be a good place to look.
When I'm not using a text terminal I personally use https://www.phoronix.com/review/asus-50-gpu
I don't have intense graphics needs for three-dimensional gaming of proprietary games with 8K resolution and 27 billion FPS or anything at all and don't really need 4 HDMI ports but it was nice to have.

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Now this is great! Similar card is on market even in my country but it isn't 2GD5 but 2GD3. It has different amount and kinds of ports but other than that it looks same. Do you think that functionality will be same?

Anyway, big thank you for this post :)

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My screen tearing issue was solved by https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/no-graphical-display-after-entering-cryptsetup-passphrase-new-aramo-install-latest-iso#comment-170938

That said, I don't know whether there is a chance that it can solve it for you or not.

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The graphical chipsets integrated to Intel processors work very well.

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Aren't integrated intel graphics only on chips with Intel Management Engine?

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You are probably right. Unfortunately, as far as I know, the Intel Management Engine is on all reasonably recent Intel processors and recent AMD processors have the equivalent "AMD Secure Technology".

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I have something to say about the Intel ME backdoor.

For recent Intel computers (starting with Nehalem), yes. I wished the previous design from the Core 2 Duo machines (ICH9-M) was retained. On older computers with a Core 2 Duo, you can easily remove the backdoor with me_cleaner. Newer computers, you can't. Although you can get a modern PC (maybe around 2012 or 2013) with a less invasive backdoor (those are the PCs without Intel vPro), you still have a backdoor. That doesn't cut it for me.

I heard that you can cripple the backdoor with HAP mode if you use me_cleaner on those newer computers, but removing it is impossible because it's integrated into the cpu (not on the Core Duos, it's separate). And attempting this has varying results on different computers. Otherwise all you can really do is unprovision Intel ME and give it invalid network settings.

There's a utility from coreboot that let's you see the status of Intel ME called intelmetool, but I won't discuss much of it here.

This is why I'm stuck with older computers from 2008.

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Hello,

I do not have an AMD GPU but maybe this link can be helpful for you :

https://davejansen.com/quick-how-to-fix-screen-tearing-in-ubuntu-with-amd-gpus/