How to remove Evolution?

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aragonm
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How to remove Evolution? I tried using synaptic, but, trisql-recomended meta package also gets selected as dependency for removal.

lembas
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Removing metapackages is not a problem. However, I believe we can't get rid of Evolution, at least I've given up trying...

aragonm
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i am trying to remove all stuff that i dont use. But, im stuck with this meta
package dependency. Apart from trisqul-recomended, there seems to be more
like only trisquel. I had had bad experience in past after removing meta
packages. Updates get messedup and adding package that we initialy in the
tree of the meta package become difficult to install once that meta package
gets removed.

Anyone has tried any way to remove packages without messing with meta
package?

aragonm
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Has no one successfully removed Evolution without removing dependency meta
packages?

TheDukeOfMixture
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The problem appears to be upstream, i.e. with the developers at Gnome.

Evolution is quite Microsoftesque in its implementation. It's removal could
cause irrevocable damage to the Gnome desktop environment.

I have learned the hard way never to uninstall any unnecessary applications
in Trisquel ever, ever, ever!

TheDukeOfMixture
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The problem of Evolution is actually an "old" topic.

This was posted on another thread with rtegards to default applications:

"4. Even when you never use a particular default application: don't remove
it. Reason: the default installation is an intertwined system that's
dependent on shared supporting files, which makes the operating system run
stable.

When you remove a default application, you run a risk of seriously damaging
the system. With some default applications this risk is bigger than with
others, but it's best to avoid this risk altogether.

If you want to, you can remove an unused application from the menu, but don't
remove it from the system.

This limitation applies only to those applications, that are part of the
default installation of Ubuntu. Applications that you've added yourself, you
may remove without problems."

From: Easy Linux tips project. Avoid nine fatal mistakes.

http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/fatalmistakes

On the other hand, I've noticed that Trisquel lists each package on its
website along with its depends, recommends, and suggests.

It looks like it may be possible to remove a package through Synaptic and
then to replace any one of the other packages by the same.

Pidgin is a package that I don't need, but i notice that if I try to remove
it through Synaptic it lists "Trisquel-recommends". I think it takes
something away from Totem also, though it may have been any one of those
Bluetooth packages I tried to get rid of.

akirashinigami

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Evolution is so inextricably intertwined with Gnome that I eventually just
learned to like it.

aragonm
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Its a bit annoying that i am forced to keep evolution even though i wont be
using it ever.

sphynx
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aragonm
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i am trying to remove all stuff that i dont use. But, im stuck with this meta package dependency. Apart from trisqul-recomended, there seems to be more like only trisquel. I had had bad experience in past after removing meta packages. Updates get messedup and adding package that we initialy in the tree of the meta package become difficult to install once that meta package gets removed.

Anyone has tried any way to remove packages without messing with meta package?

aragonm
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Joined: 05/16/2012

Has no one successfully removed Evolution without removing dependency meta packages?

TheDukeOfMixture
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Joined: 04/18/2012

The problem appears to be upstream, i.e. with the developers at Gnome.

Evolution is quite Microsoftesque in its implementation. Its removal could cause irrevocable damage to the Gnome desktop environment.

I have learned the hard way never to uninstall any unnecessary applications in Trisquel ever, ever, ever!

aragonm
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yes, i too faced lot of problem in past. that is why was asking here if anyone was able to do it without problems.

aragonm
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Joined: 05/16/2012

yes, i too faced lot of problem in past. that is why was asking here if
anyone was able to do it without problems.

TheDukeOfMixture
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Joined: 04/18/2012

The problem of Evolution is actually an "old" topic.

This was posted on another thread with regards to default applications:

"4. Even when you never use a particular default application: don't remove it. Reason: the default installation is an intertwined system that's dependent on shared supporting files, which makes the operating system run stable.

When you remove a default application, you run a risk of seriously damaging the system. With some default applications this risk is bigger than with others, but it's best to avoid this risk altogether.

If you want to, you can remove an unused application from the menu, but don't remove it from the system.

This limitation applies only to those applications, that are part of the default installation of Ubuntu. Applications that you've added yourself, you may remove without problems."

From: Easy Linux tips project. Avoid nine fatal mistakes.

http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/fatalmistakes

On the other hand, I've noticed that Trisquel lists each package on its website along with its depends, recommends, and suggests.

It looks like it may be possible to remove a package through Synaptic and then to replace any one of the other packages by the same.

Pidgin is a package that I don't need, but i notice that if I try to remove it through Synaptic it lists "Trisquel-recommends". I think it takes something away from Totem also, though it may have been any one of those Bluetooth packages I tried to get rid of.

akirashinigami

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I am a translator!

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Evolution is so inextricably intertwined with Gnome that I eventually just learned to like it.

aragonm
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Its a bit annoying that i am forced to keep evolution even though i wont be using it ever.

sphynx
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Maybe you should give Parabola -- https://parabolagnulinux.org -- a try. It's 100% FaiF Arch Linux, a FSF-endorsed distro, and it follows Arch principles -- mainly, KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid. It means there is no show-stopping metapackages out there. Of course, it's not a Trisquel replacement, it's focused on other things.