Intel AMT and Free Software

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Davide0
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Hello to everyone. I came across a thought.If most computers and mobile devices have the latest intel processors (and we know that this is not free hardware as Stallman said) how can we consider ourselves more free than those who use Windows or Mac? I mean, if someone has newer intel hardware and Free Software installed can we consider that person free (as in freedom)? Is still worth to install Free Software on a computer that runs iAMT? Or is the same as having a computer with proprietary software?

calher

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Using free software instead of proprietary software is always better.

It's good to use free programs on a proprietary OS, if the alternative
is using proprietary programs on a proprietary OS.

It's good to use a free OS on a proprietary BIOS, if the alternative is
using a proprietary OS on a proprietary BIOS.

It's good to ADD free software. It's not good to ADD proprietary
software.

Time4Tea
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I agree with calher. Being 80% free is better than being 20% free ... :-)

garfilth
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Use as much Free Software as possible but an older system, Core 2 Due, works great. If you can't get a Libreboot system use as much Free software as you can. Use a FULLY free OS, graphics and WIFI, and enjoy. Yes 80% is better than 20%. Plenty of laptops out there to be 100%. Just go for it.

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ADFENO
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Also be careful with "UEFI" in general.

Technically, there are two types:

a) Secure Boot: free/libre system distribution friendly, and free/libre
software friendly. In this scenario the device manufacturer allows
the user *himself* to manage the trust keys *completely* --- and also
allows to insert his own/user's trust key --- so that the UEFI can
only accept the operating system signed with such keys.

b) Restricted Boot: found in most mobile devices, gaming devices and
some modern computers. Only the manufacturer, or people authorized by
these, can manage the keys, that is: the user has no way to manage
these *completely*.

This information was based on [1].

Again, please be careful to talk about UEFI, it's two-fold.

[1] .

2017-11-30T08:12:23+0100 name at domain wrote:
> Also read this:
>
> http://techrights.org/2013/06/24/nsa-and-uefi/
> https://www.csoonline.com/article/3220476/security/researchers-say-now-you-too-can-disable-intel-me-backdoor-thanks-to-the-nsa.html
> https://threatpost.com/intel-confirms-its-much-loathed-me-feature-has-a-kill-switch/127739/
> https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/201722-linuxs-worst-case-scenario-microsoft-makes-secure-boot-mandatory-locks-out-other-operating-systems
>
> be careful with UEFI crap and Intel's ME. Anyway we can nothing to do.
>

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