An Introduction, and a few questions

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tonlee
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To clarify. You had a non free answer to the questioner. You wanted to give him the answer. You know it breaks the rules. You tried to circumvent by a not recommendation statement. Right? I think he should somehow get the answer you wanted to tell him. When people did not criticize you, it is probably because you have a name on the forum. But you nor thinkpenguin or anybody else should differ from forum rules. My question is, would it comply with forum rules if answers about non free software are messaged to the questioner?

You should mention thinkpenguin every time a post is about getting hardware. How do you think a questioner reacts if the only answer he gets is, get rid of your hardware? Buy thinkpenguin hardware. A questioner should get to learn how to better buy new hardware. At the same time there should be a way to provide answers on non free software about his present hardware.

SuperTramp83

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>You had a non free answer to the questioner.

I have no idea what you mean by this. I don't understand you.

>You wanted to give him the answer. You know it breaks the rules. You tried to circumvent by a not recommendation statement. Right? I think he should somehow get the answer you wanted to tell him. When people did not criticize you, it is probably because you have a name on the forum. But you nor thinkpenguin or anybody else should differ from forum rules. My question is, would it comply with forum rules if answers about non free software are messaged to the questioner?

Again, I don't understand what you're talking about.

>You should mention thinkpenguin every time a post is about getting hardware. How do you think a questioner reacts if the only answer he gets is, get rid of your hardware?

Why should I mention thinkpenguin? Why not the librebooted laptops libiquty and minifree sells?

My first answer to the OP was to sell his laptop and buy one with an Intel GPU.
Op answered to my first answer explaining he can not sell nor buy anything. So I answered again because it seems better to me to have Debian with one nonfree package than installing the Ubuntu Crapos which by the way is full of proprietary software and freedom wise certainly 10 time worse than Debian. And again, notice that my second answer contained not one but two warnings on the peril of installing the non-free firmware.

I think you have some troubles with the language. If not, I really can't understand what is the fuss.

tonlee
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Supertramp
> I think you have some troubles with the language.
Agreed. I am writing in foreign language about computers. Keeping my posts short. Clarifying apparently did not work.

> can't understand what is the fuss.
No fuss. It is about to what extend it complies with forum rules to tell how to install non free software.

My questions.
> install Debian, temporarily add the non-free repo and install the package firmware-linux-nonfree and then remove the non-free repo from sources.list in /etc/apt.
Are you telling a member how to install non free software? Yes or no?
Is telling a person how to install non free software against forum rules? Yes or no?
If the answer to the second question is no, then many posts on this forum have been incorrectly named to be against forum rules.

If you think my post was about pointing at you because you tell how to install a piece of non free software, you are wrong. I think the questioner should be told how to get his hardware to run properly. I want there to be an option to tell a questioner how to install non free software in cases where fx it is a matter of getting a piece of hardware to work properly and there is no free software option. Maybe by messaging such answers to the questioner, if that is not against forum rules?

>You should mention thinkpenguin every time a post is about getting hardware.
To my knowledge in english you may say 'you can' in the sense 'one can'. Maybe I should have written 'Thinkpenguin computers etc should be mentioned every time a post is about obtaining hardware'.

SuperTramp83

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Yes, Tonlee. I technically did indeed break the forum rule. Maybe I shouldn't have. But I broke it in good faith, if I may say so. See, after the OP explained us he could not buy another PC and also that with trisquel his PC was unusable being that it would shut down for the great heat, I figured that probably he would go and install Ubuntu. I just pointed out he had a better alternative to A - a computer you can not use without the firmware for the GPU OR B a computer with a lot of proprietary software (Ubuntu).

But, yes, you are right on one thing - rules should apply to everyone.

>If you think my post was about pointing at you

No, mate, I just didn't understand you well, it's ok, peace.

vita_cell
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Anyway, all AMD is trash and furnance, AMD loves non-free software. Their blobed software works really bad, still not fixes, only changed name to "Crimson". Their open-source drivers are crap, because AMD doesn't want to release all hardware specifications. Anyway, ATI/AMD Graphics chips, can not to work properly with free software. Cuz needs a signed firmware, which is not free.

AMD hardware running all proprietary software, it still hot, and takes too much power.

Next time, buy Intel cpu with integrated intel gpu. Probably, the last one, Skylake, it is not a good idea. Today, all GPUs need non-free software, Nvidia(gtx9xx), AMD, and now Intel.

GPU running non-free software is a serious security risk.