Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

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Hello everyone, I have the following problem: For professional education, I would like to use the following site

http://ilias.aekwl.de/ilias.php?baseClass=ilSAHSPresentationGUI&ref_id=27033

After login, there is a virtual book with several presentations. When I click on them, there is a new tab, black, with a grey bar at the bottom, reading: Click to play. I know this bar from youtube videos or tv streaming and ususally I can watch what I like. However, here the result is only a grey tab with nothing playing.

I have already tried the following: Installed Totem extensions; the greasemonkey firefox extension with Linternamagica script; and Epiphany. It doesn't help and epiphany sometimes crashes.

I don't know how to make it run and I'd appreciate any help because I don't like the thought to install any proprietary software.

Thanks in advance.

davidnotcoulthard (not verified)
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Forgive me for saying this, but if it needs Flash, it needs Flash (which....is proprietary).Is there any other format under which the book thingie is in? (I think there's got to be - because otherwise Mac users wouldn't be impressed either).

Anyway, I'm right in assuming it asks for Adobe Flash, right?

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"because otherwise Mac users wouldn't be impressed either"
you can run flash on osx cant you?

davidnotcoulthard (not verified)
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I thought you can't?

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Why would you think that? Adobe releases all its other software for OS X, why would they neglect Flash, a program which used to be so incredibly ubiquitous on the Web that people to this day tend to install it just as a matter of routine? The only general-use computers running proprietary software that don't typically have Flash on them are ARM devices.

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While we're on the subject: why is ARM so badly supported?

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Mainly because Apple (mainly Steve Jobs, IIRC) explicitly rejected Flash on iOS, which was to my recollection mainly because they wanted to control the user experience of iOS tightly, and Flash handed off control to Adobe. Apple passed it off as Flash being obsolete, or something to that effect.

Partly also because Flash Player just didn't perform very well on ARM devices of the time when Adobe first released betas for it. I experienced this first-hand; on the OpenPandora, Flash performance was so terrible that having it was pretty much completely useless. (Note that the OpenPandora was less powerful than other ARM devices at the time, so it probably wasn't this bad for most Android users, but it still wouldn't have been all that great.)

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I thought I recalled Flash being pulled from Macs, and the decision being made by Apple rather than Adobe. My bad, then.

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Adobe Flash is available for Android. I found plenty of results by searching "flash for android" in DuckDuckGo.

You did say they typically don't have it, but I wanted to make that clear.

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Right. There's also a GNU/Linux binary for ARM; I've used it before. ;) From what I understand, though, it was never updated past Flash 10, and only beta versions were released (unless Android was a bit different).

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Davidnotcoulthard, it doesn't explicitly ask for Adobe Flash. I just observe the usual behavior of my browser when playing flash. And I can play "Adobe Flash"-films on other websites. But it is working now, as I have described below. Thank you.

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There are a few options you can still try: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/play-videos-without-using-flash

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Thank you for this suggestion, pizzaiolo. As I have reported, I have tried some of these suggestions. Others were not applicable as these films are not on Youtube etc. And I am not enough of an web media expert to chose the right option from this page. I have tried to download the flash films, though, but I didn't manage. Thanks though.

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Anyway have they got a "mobile" version (Android and iOS don't use Flash)? I think if they have it'll be possible to open them without Flash, and hopefully without proprietary software at all.

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Thank you, davidnotcoulthard! By faking an Android browser, I can watch my films now. Thanks.

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Hi anatom
What sometimes works for me is get the "user agent switcher" addon for abrowser and download the user agents from here http://techpatterns.com/forums/about304.html
Then change user agent to android and you can sometimes get a different link ;)

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catfishes: Big thanks! Changing to android via UserAgentSwitcher works well! Thanks a lot!

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In a lot of such cases you can download the file video instead of using the Flash player. You may find the video file URL in the page source code by looking for '.flv', '.mp4', '.webm', 'video' and other keywords. But the site is in German which I don't understand, and I can't login and reach the page where the videos are, so I can't help with more than that.

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Hello Mampir,
thank you for your help. However, I couldn't find such keywords in the source file. Maybe I'm just not enough expert to do so.
Thanks anyway for responding.

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By the way, the UnPlug extension does this automatically.

I've made a video tutorial about something related to this, by the way; you might find it useful in the future:

https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/onpon4/m/tutorial-watching-videos-without-javascript/