Midory outdated

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zabiyakod
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Hey,

looks like Midory that comes with Trisquel 8 is already outdated. What is the point of releasing it in that case? Can't login to LinkedIn. Browser is too old. As far as I need the working system not just privacy concerns I do switch back to XUbuntu.

It's a pity but true. Regards, Denis

loldier
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Midori is unmaintained.

What stops you from installing Abrowser? Or install The regular Trisquel Mate desktop edition, not Mini.

zabiyakod
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My PC is 6 years old and it loads for ages under Mate so the only acceptable solution for me is Xfce environment :) I wish it was available under Trisquel too.

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> My PC is 6 years old and it loads for ages under Mate so the only acceptable
> solution for me is Xfce environment

Really? My PC is 12 years old and has no trouble with MATE. I have tried Xfce as well and noticed little difference in performance.

> I wish it was available under
> Trisquel too.

It is.

$ sudo apt install xfce4

Then log out, click the icon next to your username, selec Xfce, and log in.

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6 years old is not that old. My old laptop was a budget laptop from 2007 and it worked with MATE, Cinnamon, GNOME, etc just fine. Pretty much any x86 computer from 2012 should easily be able to handle any modern desktop environment, even KDE. In fact the newest hardware that can work with a 100% libre software stack (that is to say, the Libreboot-supported computers) are older than that.

Loading speed is influenced almost entirely by how fast your hard drive is. How many seconds are you talking about with regard to loading speed? If it's more than a few seconds or so I would seriously consider replacing that hard drive since such slow operation could be an early sign that it's developing too many bad sectors. Using a lightweight DE that loads less stuff is only a band-aid solution and isn't going to protect you from the inevitable data loss.

On the other hand, if it's only a few seconds that's bothering you, that's because you're using a hard drive, not because of the age of your computer. You can get faster read/write speeds with an SSD.

Also, Xfce is available on Trisquel; just install the "xfce4" meta-package.

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You can install Abrowser on Trisquel Mini: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/installing-updating-and-removing-software

Abrowser is constantly updated (unlike the other packages). Being a Firefox derivative, it actually follows Firefox's frequent updates and currently is at version 59.

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Mate should be pretty light on resources but if you find it not responsive enough maybe you should try something else like Openbox or FVWM.

Screenshot from 2018-05-09 07-19-31.png fvwm_ubu1804_rootmenu.png
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By running Trisquel mini you are never prevented to install QupZilla hence abandon discontinued Midori at your own will and own need. Trisquel is free software so you are always free to install anything that meets freedom.

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>As far as I need the working system not just privacy concerns I do switch back to XUbuntu.

Look! An icon on muh desktop is not as yellow as I want it to be.. it's rather orange instead.. I switch to teh Windows!
Problem solved!
(stopped reading there)
((peace))

aloniv

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If you are after a browser similar to Midori you can try Epiphany/Web (both use the WebKitGTK+ rendering engine).

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Epiphany is a great browser that’s written for GNOME, for systems that don’t have Falkon/QupZilla like PureOS and Hyperbola I run Epiphany as the only browser for these systems, however for Trisquel there is QupZilla so I run QupZilla as my default web browser.
Note that package your-privacy in Parabola blocks geoclue2 that also blocks WebKitGTK+ so finally blocks Epiphany, but I still have QupZilla that’s secured to keep using it. :)

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Epiphany is still available in Parabola/Hyperbola using WebKitGTK+ without geoclue2 support.

https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/extra/x86_64/webkit2gtk/

Also, there is a reason why Qupzilla is not offered by Parabola and Hyperbola (and thus should not be recommended here) - it is due to freedom issues concerning qt5-webengine.

https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/software/blacklist.git/plain/blacklist.txt

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Parabola ships QupZilla version 1.8.9 that uses QtWebKit engine,
https://parabola.nu/packages/QupZilla1
An KDE browser using QtWebEngine that now merges QupZilla and Konqueror, called Falkon, is also available in Parabola, but the QtWebEngine deps are virtual packages to be ignored.
Parabola should also try to liberate QtWebEgine by removing ‘‘Pepper’’ Flash plugins and deps then publish in their [nonprism] repo,
https://parabola.nu/packages/falkon
Parabola also ships WebKit2GTK in [nonprism] repo that doesn’t need geoclue2,
https://parabola.nu/packages/webkit2gtk

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The browser is called Qupzilla, but the rendering engine qt5-webengine was replaced (as opposed to modified by removing non-free parts) by qt5-webkit so it is in fact a different browser using the same name.

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For light-weight browser, QupZilla is recommended (and also by gnu.org).

For light-weight desktop environment, why do I feel that MATE is even lighter than Xfce... One fact is that Xubuntu is beginning to use certain MATE components.

PS, I am running Trisquel on a twelve years old notebook. It has an Atheros WLAN adapter and no ME. I learned that the initial generation ME for 945 platforms is located in the Intel Gib ethernet adapter. But my LAN adapter is non-Intel, so I'm not troubled by ME. Everything is so perfect under Trisquel.

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For LXQt and MATE which is more light thanks? I will sincerely vote for LXQt.

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Of course LXDE/LXQt is lighter, but MATE is light enough.

I run Trisquel 8 (default settings) on a twelve years old ThinkPad Z61t and everything is smooth enough.

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There's also a Cinnamon desktop similar to MATE which both are GNOME forks, as compared to LXQt or MATE is Cinnamon really light? I have some nostalgia reason using Cinnamon from which I was still running nonfree Linux Mint, that's the system developing Cinnamon desktop.

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No, Cinnamon is not supposed to be "light". It's based on GNOME 3.

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Yeah, I agree anything based on gnome 3 is far from light.

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IF you want light, there are two options, XFCE or LXQT

LXDE will be used less and less in the future or I would have mentioned that.

Mate isn't bad though. But XFCE is my favorite, then LXQT takes a hard second with one exception, LXQT is extremely ugly compared to LXDE.

That is my opinion anyways meh... the part about lxqt being extremely ugly... ;)

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Took me a lot of time to get it but I finally understand LXDE is da shit! There is nothing like LXDE, as the song says 'simply the best' :)

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Alas, LXDE development is being slowed, I wish LXQT would either be made to look like LXDE,

or

LXDE would be forked to continue in GTK3.

Not that I don't usually prefer XFCE, but yeah, the reason I went with XFCE is because LXDE was going to be replaced in the near future with LXQT.

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Is LXQt ugly mainly depends on kwin, xfwm, or openbox as win manager, and what are your control and icon themes. (Yes kwin and xfwm are quite pretty but Openbox is honestly ugly.) :)
For me I just love Breeze-dark control, mouse, icon themes from KDE for LXQt and sometimes GTK desktops like Cinnamon and MATE, which I also have installed Openbox/KDE for experimenting is that more light than standard Plasma shell.
In parallel I've also installed Ubuntu touch, Chrome OS, winxp, win10 themes that looks very different from GNOME's Adwaita.
For Parabola you will have one more choice, https://liri.io, for Trisquel you will also have Unity shell as one more choice. :D

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