The rest of my writing in "installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s"

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Masaru Suzuqi
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This is the rest of my writing of the post:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/installing-trisquel-8-and-mini-fail-x60s#comment-142583

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As I wrote here:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-do-you-computer-experts-think-about-computer-education-high-school

Frankly there is perfectly no reason that average users become willing users of this kind of stuff, like the Serbian English teacher. Or rather, they have bad feelings for this kind of stuff. They are rejecting. Should I show an example what I am having trouble with.
Why paste a link in the instruction pages? What is cd? dd? 2. From the libreboot_bin or libreboot_util/ directory??
Why despite it can be done internally, cannot I do that one or two clicks?
I appreciate that there are so-called libre stuff. I have read an article that Libreboot has an intention to let even normal users install coreboot easily so this would be the easist way, it must be my childish complaint, but absolutely the English teacher would not be willing to do it. That means almost 100% people will never flash bios of their devices by themselves. If we know what we will get from flashing it but I am not still sure what I will get.
Ahh I am saying the same thing again...
I hope the nadebula's documents will be great stuff that like "This is great, I don't need other documents to do ***..." but I have a question if there is necessity to do it now. Because... how many years went past since... is my current frank feelings. Or rather I have been having the feelings... zzz... If you sold x60 for $200 including everthing, I would buy it. Should I also start Libreshop in Japan.

andyprough
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> If you sold x60 for $200 including everthing, I would buy it. Should I also start Libreshop in Japan.

I agree. For $200 I might buy one just to play with it. But, I use my computers for work, and I doubt that an old x60 would be able to do most of my work.

I am more interested in having a modern computer like this Talos Blackbird: https://www.raptorcs.com/content/BK1B02/intro.html
Totally free software including all of the hardware drivers all the way down to the CPU microcode. But still as fast and powerful as nearly any modern computer.

Maybe you should start a Talos Blackbird shop in Japan.

nadebula.1984
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X60 is a bit outdated. They support only 3 GiB of RAM. Most of them have only 32-bit processors. (Though the memory limit renders 64-bit architecture less relevant, more and more software no longer offer 32-bit versions.)

X61 is much better. 8 GiB memory support makes the different. GM965 (GMA X3100) is far better than 945GM (GMA950), too. coreboot on GM965 platform is being developed.

Masaru Suzuqi
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PS,
I read an article about librebooting X60s in maybe a website which looked like Wikipedia and the writer writes that Libreboot recommends using Trisquel to flash it or to do something but if I use Trisquel, I have to connect to it with ethernet but I only have tethering (actually almost packet measured rate charging, in the worst case $10 per 1gb) to connect to it, and the writer recommends Debian because I don't need ethernet to do it so I installed Debian but I cannot enter Japanese language then I searched for how to enter Japanese and there were also people who complained about why Debian doesn't prepare it by default (by the way I could not use even sudo by default, is it normal). I can find quite a lot of articles about Debian, Ubuntu in Japanese language but also there are a lot of the documents which lack important parts maybe intentionally but there are few sane users who provide me with correct kind instructions but I still cannot enter Japanese language on Debian because I have tried to download Tor, fcixt, or those famous applications but I always get a message that there is no such application in repository or something like that, however maybe I could download some not important applications. I am not sure but in my caluculation, maybe about after another 2 years, I will be able to libreboot this laptop, big laugh. I feel sorry for you guys's encouragement, though. I don't feel that I will be able to do it. I already had the trouble with the vendor, and C100P. I would use this laptop and Trisquel with this bios. This thread was closed. Thank you.

andyprough
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> I installed Debian but I cannot enter Japanese language then I searched for how to enter Japanese and there were also people who complained about why Debian doesn't prepare it by default (by the way I could not use even sudo by default, is it normal). I can find quite a lot of articles about Debian, Ubuntu in Japanese language but also there are a lot of the documents which lack important parts maybe intentionally but there are few sane users who provide me with correct kind instructions but I still cannot enter Japanese language on Debian because I have tried to download Tor, fcixt, or those famous applications but I always get a message that there is no such application in repository or something like that, however maybe I could download some not important applications

Did you see the Debian JP project? https://www.debian.or.jp/project/
Maybe it has some helpful information? I cannot read it.

sudo does not work on Debian without making some changes. I believe these are the correct ones:
su - [to enter command as root]
apt install sudo
usermod -aG sudo USERNAME [enter your own user name]
Then log out and log back in. Hopefully it will work.

Tor - I don't know if Debian has the Tor browser. I usually download it from the Tor website, because it is more updated. There is a Japanese version on this page here: https://www.torproject.org/download/languages/

Debian has the fcitx package - I think that is the one you are looking for. It has the ability to input in different Asian languages I think. https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=buster&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=fcitx
apt install fcitx

Libreshop
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Nice,
If you really plan to do it, I will send you, my tutorials, I'm currently building the website for it, what do you think?
https://libreshop.eu

Masaru Suzuqi
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Thank you very much. However, I have been intending to raise fundamental problems, and I cannot ask solutions of the procedure for librebooting here one by one, I will always have troubles, besides the answers you gave me were about other distro's problems. I should probably buy books on Unix or Linux or something, and apart from the quality of the books, the authors will not write misinformation, hopefully. But I have no much time and passion for that. As I said, just there are no miss experts is good for me.

If you are creating a website, and if you do it as business, since this is the world where privacy and freedom are extremely valued, as some issues are raising that seem important in other threads right now [1], I would recommend the perfect consideration for the privacy issues.
It is common sense where I have lived that a person neglect one will neglect two, three, four. Finally he makes a fatal mistake. Once he did it, he becomes more careless like our enemies. Because there is no difference between losing one castle and two castles and many pawns and knights, bishops. Loss is loss. He already lost. The rest is how to handle the insane madness. But thanks for phycology.
Some people have the sense in common.
Even if we cannot make a perfect laptop now, we can make an as possible as attentive website from the view points of privacy and security. It is a matter of heart rather than a technical matter. I don't know well but I think the people would have doubt about privacy and security of the software itself too. I don't know, but anyway it was common sense in our worlds.

So the problem seems that every a piece of software is six of one and half-a-dozen of the other. It's natural to get angry. No wonder.
Would someone mind consulting for my computer security? Regarding the consulting fees, how about deciding it after negotiation?
If you don't mind it, please email me. I might pay something back for Trisquel project as like a rebate of this consulting. Debian has the list of consultants, and I have emailed one of them when I had the Chromebook but he did not know the words coreboot, libreboot, etc. Anyway if I am not recommended to use the function without knowing what it does, that means I don't need it because it requires quite high level expertise. Of course I have been talking about them on the side of the more than 99% of average users and I want to stay on the side to solve those problems. But I realized we need other way. I spent enough time and quite a lot of money. I am not going to spend a lot of them on them further. I merely have been thinking that computers relates to almost all the problems of human beings.

[1] https://trisquel.info/en/issues/26008
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/selling-digital-products-online-ethical-way#comment-142581

Edit: added this PS: PS, By the way, about the GDPR problem, I think that it sounds strange that "GDPR says so, so we have to do it".
Because since the "philosophy" is to respect people's freedom, so inevitably including privacy and security, I think that we should respect those voluntarily, perfectly. Because the philosophy seems to mean the fundamental principle. Waiting for criticism (showing only its tail) seems to be bad. Sometimes it is equal to promoting ruin because of thatos. I wonder why many users don't join the discussion. It seems to be a serious matter.

Edit: typo: thatos > thanatos

andyprough
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You have both a language barrier and several significant technical barriers. Very difficult to solve this problem. If you want a librebooted x60, you might want to consider just buying one. I know that I am not going to spend my time to become an expert on librebooting these old laptops. My time is worth more money than that. If I want one, I'll contact libreshop and see if I can buy one. Right now though, I do not even want one.

Masaru Suzuqi
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Yes, and a financial barrier... how sad to live surrounded maliciousness. I just want... to live easy... painting, surfing... surrounded beautiful people... but if the universe has everything, that would be the inevitable, though I feel nihilism is too strong... but yeah it must be quite better than some decades ago... that's nothing... (´ཀ`)

andyprough
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> how sad to live surrounded maliciousness. I just want... to live easy... painting, surfing... surrounded beautiful people... but if the universe has everything, that would be the inevitable, though I feel nihilism is too strong.

Watch that Buddhist monk movie I gave you the link to. It will make you think again about your way of looking at life. A story that makes you search your own soul.