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Mr. Boat
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Hello community.

I was thinking about instaling Trisquel 6.0, but I had a problem, the same one I had in 5.5, the video resolution.

I have a 1920x1080 screen, but Trisquel does not recognize it. Well, this would have an easy troubleshoot, installing Nvidia propietary drivers, but I would like to know if there is something else I could do before.

About my computer, I have an Nvidia GTX560ti, and an Asus P8Z68-V PRO GEN3 motherboard.

Thanks!

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What's the point of installing a 100% free GNU+Linux distribution if
the first step is adding proprietary software back in?

Anyway, I think we need more details like the output of various logs
and whatnot so that we can know what's happening (or not happening.)

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I've experienced this myself with an Nvidia card and an ATI card; I guess some of them just suck, not surprising since AMD doesn't fully cooperate and Nvidia doesn't cooperate at all with free software.

The obvious thing to try is a kernel update to the latest version of Linux-libre. If that doesn't work, you'll just need to either get a new card (http://libre.thinkpenguin.com sells a good one) or deal with the wrong resolution and hope it gets fixed in the future.

By the way, I don't see your card on h-node.org, so it would be cool if you could report it. :)

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> The obvious thing to try is a kernel update to the latest version of
> Linux-libre.

Assuming that this is the cause. Without the logs, we don't know.
A newer kernel can be obtained from http://jxself.org/linux-libre

Mr. Boat
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Excuse me for my ignorance, but what it is on that link is a tutorial of how update my kernel?

Or only how to get the last one?

I'm pretty new on this.

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> Excuse me for my ignorance, but what it is on that link is a tutorial of
> how update my kernel?
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> Or only how to get the last one?

If you've read everything, here are the 5 exact commands to be run in a
terminal to always have the latest 64 bit kernel:

sudo echo "deb http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/
freesh main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list

wget http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/archive-key.asc

sudo apt-key add archive-key.asc

sudo aptitude update

sudo aptitude install linux-libre64

Then you will be required to reboot and during the GRUB screen it will
auto boot with the new kernel, but you can also select the original
Trisquel kernel if you want to.

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Mr. Boat
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Ok, I got it.

Thank you!

andrew
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According to this[1] it looks like the user's chip could do with a more recent kernel than 3.0. Nouveau suggests 3.1+.

1: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames#NVC0

miga
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Just a note, my GTX 560 (NVCE) performed terribly on Nouveau with an up-to-date kernel (3.7). It had very bad 3D acceleration because of very low clock speeds, and reclocking doesn't work on Fermi yet with nouveau. The only way performance is going to increase is when nouveau is able to reclock these cards.

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If you have an Intel board, you had better physically remove the nVidia card. Intel drivers perfectly work (including the 3D acceleration). You may even obtain better performance in some areas! Besides, you would also save some Watts.

Mr. Boat
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Hey, thanks for the replyes.

Going to try the kernel update and manipulate xorg.conf :)

About removing my nVidia card, that's not possible. I need to use it on this computer (I have Windows and GNU/Linux in the same one). Before anyone says something, I need to use Windows, my work is on there.

To jxself: well, I was asking here because I wanted to know if there is a solution that preserves my freedom, because it would be nosense to install a 100% free software distro and install propietary drivers.

Again, thanks to you all, when final realease comes out I will try it.

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Windows should be able to use the Intel graphical chipset too.

Mr. Boat
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Yeah, but I have to use the video card. Forgeting about videogames, I'm studying 3D design, and the application I use needs it.

By the way, anyones knows if Blender works smoothly, supossing I do not install the nVidia propietary drivers?

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I use Blender regularly on three computer. One with Intel GMA, another with AMD Radeon and third with Nvidia GeForce. Everything with free software, I don't compromise. All of them are usable, even in the case of AMD's Radeon, which does not have any 3D acceleration.

When you are working with 3D development software such as Blender, 3D acceleration is not as important as you might think. CPU and RAM are much more crucial then 3D acceleration. Having said that, a fast and modern computer does not make a good 3D artist, almost everything is skills.

Mr. Boat
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¡Wow!

Can't believe it, IT WORKED!

After upgrading to Linux-Libre 3.7.7 I got a 1920x1080 resolution!

But there is another problem... I cannot enter to my profile :s

When I log in, a black screen with some phrases appear and disappear very quickly, I catch to see my desktop and taskbar and boom, going back to the login screen :S

Mr. Boat
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Anyone knows why can't I enter to my desktop?

I created a new profile, but it just doesn't work.

If I found a solution I'll post it.

Magic Banana

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Can you log in a terminal session (press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to have one)? If it works, try executing 'startx' afterwards. Report any error message.

Mr. Boat
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It seems like it is a Gnome problem, I installes openbox and works without any problem.

lembas
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Perhaps purging and reinstalling it would help?

Mr. Boat
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Well, I could try that.

What should I do?

sudo apt-get remove gnome-session-fallback
sudo apt-get markauto

And then

Sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback

Or

sudo apt-get purge alacarte cups-pk-helper gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 gir1.2-caribou-1.0 gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gir1.2-cogl-1.0 gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 gir1.2-folks-0.6 gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0 gir1.2-gee-1.0 gir1.2-gjsdbus-1.0 gir1.2-gkbd-3.0 gir1.2-json-1.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gir1.2-polkit-1.0 gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12 gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 gir1.2-xkl-1.0 gjs gnome-applets gnome-applets-data gnome-contacts gnome-icon-theme-full gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-session-fallback gnome-shell gnome-shell-common gnome-themes-standard indicator-applet-complete libcaribou-common libcaribou0 libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-1.0-common libcogl-common libcogl-pango0 libcogl9 libgjs0c libmozjs185-1.0 libmutter0 libpanel-applet-4-0 mutter-common python-gmenu

and

sudo apt-get purge alacarte cups-pk-helper gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gnome-applets gnome-applets-data gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-session-fallback indicator-applet-complete libpanel-applet-4-0 python-gmenu

lembas
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Removing a package won't remove the config files, which I believe could be the problem here so you'll need to purge.

What does that markauto do? Looks like it's some aptitude thing actually.

I believe the latter option is closer to what needs to be done. Of course, if you knew which package and which config file, you could just rename or remove or even modify the single file, but if you don't and I certainly don't, we're back to these shotgun approaches.

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Indeed. Try removing the configuration files which are related to the basic GNOME desktop. Some of them are in ~/.gnome2, others in .config.

Mr. Boat
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Well, the problem is not only on Gnome, that's what I believe after this morning, when I installed KDE and... surprise, it does not start either.

I can only log in with Openbox and KDE/Openbox.

Gnome session, Gnome/Openbox (error loading session "ubuntu), and KDE don't work.

So, well, I'm a noob on GNU/Linux world, but I think it is a window magnament problem or something like that, isn't it?

PS: Have to say that, in old kernels, all works, except Gnome/Openbox, wich gives me the same problem again and again.

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Reading again the thread, I (re)discovered you have already tried to log in as a newly created user (it is what you mean by "profile", isn't it?). Then, removing configuration files will not help (a new user has none that relate with graphical software).

Mr. Boat
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Yeah, already tried that.

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Well, GNOME Fallback uses Compiz by default in Trisquel 6, right? I don't know if KDE uses that or KWin when you install it on Trisquel 6.

One modern desktop environment that doesn't use Compiz is GNOME Shell, so you could try that. I don't know exactly how well it goes on Trisquel 6, but on Trisquel 5.5. you just needed to do "sudo apt-get install gnome-session".

I don't know if Metacity is available in Trisquel 6, but if it is, you can try using that.

To be honest, though, unless you're going to use a super-modern environment like GNOME Shell or Unity, I think Xfce is the best choice (sudo apt-get install xfce4). It feels a lot like GNOME 2, and with just a tiny bit of configuration (moving the panels around a bit, changing what's on the panel), you can get it to look very similar to Trisquel's default GNOME Fallback look with no problems (though you'll get some weirdness if you use certain GNOME programs with it, namely the GNOME file manager Nautilus and the GNOME terminal).

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Well, after trying a lot of things, I have decided to install nVidia propietary drivers.

EASY, EASY, IT'S A JOKE!

I tried XFCE and I absolutely loved it! I'll keep with it, at a 1920x1080. I'll wait to the Trisquel 6.0 final relese, and then do a XFCE fresh installation.

I readed about how yo install KDE on Trisquel, with a netinstall. I have to do the same with XFCE?

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>Well, after trying a lot of things, I have decided to install nVidia propietary drivers.

What is the point of installing proprietary drivers in Trisquel?

Why not use Ubuntu instead?

Now you have a dirty non-free blob on your otherwise pristine Trisquel installation.

Disgusting.

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Le 2013-02-18 22:21, name at domain a écrit :
>> Well, after trying a lot of things, I have decided to install
>> nVidia
> propietary drivers.
>
> What is the point of installing proprietary drivers in Trisquel?
>
> Why not use Ubuntu instead?
>
> Now you have a dirty non-free blob on your otherwise pristine
> Trisquel installation.
>
> Disgusting.

Please re-read carefully Mr. Boat's message ;).

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