Seahorse / Evolution Problem

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alucardx
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I'm running into an issue where Evolution can't verify Security Certificates any more. It's claiming that the gmail cert I received isn't safe. I thought it was weird but being cautious I chose not to accept the cert. Digging further into this I think it is actually a problem with Seahorse. For some reason seahorse won't sync with any key servers. I did some research and it seems that there were seahorse releases in Ubuntu that had this problem. I didn't really find a solution though and I'm not sure if/when it was fixed.

Has anyone else run into this and if so, what's the solution?

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I do not have this problem but what about deleting, in Seahorse, the IMAP and SMTP keys related to your Gmail account. I assume Evolution will then ask you again about trusting or not the certificates... but I may be wrong too!

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I did try doing that. I've also tried removing all key servers and uninstalling seahorse and gnupg and reinstalling. I've had no luck at all. I'm not sure what's caused this or how to fix it.

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Do you have anything in the Preferences/Certificates of Evolution? I personally don't although I configured a GMail account.

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You didn't by chance remove certificates did you? Maybe out of fear of China or the security vulnerable CAs?

alucardx
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No I didn't do anything like that. This was just a sudden thing. I'm not even sure where to start troubleshooting. Though I do suspect that seahorse is operating as a face to gpg? If so I still don't know what to do with this problem. It's really odd. The strange thing is that when I go to sync seahorse with keyservers it claims there are keys to sync when there really aren't any.

GustavoCM

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That happens to me also. I have no idea why. KMail doesn't complain, neither Abrowser -- only Evolution.

alucardx
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I think it's because those don't use seahorse. I tried Sylpheed Mail an it works fine.

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Being a Thunderbird user, I just haven't encountered this problem with the GNOME keyring and Evolution. I may have run into something similar with Empathy for the brief time I tried using it, but that was in another distro.

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I'm still trying to dig into this problem and figure out what's going on. I am seeing it on two computers. One that has a fresh install of 5.5 and also had 5.5 installed previously and also on a computer that has never had anything but 5.5 on it. I'm not sure what's causing it but it seems to be something with seahorse. If it were only affecting seahorse then I'd let it lie for now, but it also seems to affect evolution. It's causing SSL cert errors when rendering html in emails and also when sending and receiving mail on an SSL server.

Where can I look to try and fix this? Is anyone else having this problem?

GustavoCM

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Are these Trisquel installations up-to-date? There have been many upgrades (at least for 5.5) in the last weeks.

I had problems with enabling HTML reading by default (when I opened Evolution, the first message was HTML-only, perhaps problematic, and Evolution went unstable: I couldn't scroll the list of messages or read them, in the same folder; other folders behave well), so I disabled it. Everything went back to normal.

I talked to Lavabit support team (Pete S.) and they (he) said some Trisquel users reported the SSL verification problem with Seahorse and Evolution; perhaps upgrading what you can could help you. If not, I don't know where to start diggering... perhaps running Evolution from a terminal; see if any error messages are shown.

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Yeah everything is up-to-date. I don't know where to start either. I have been on the evolution mailing list and the only suggestion I received was that something is causing my nss database to have problems. I think that's under ~/.pki/nssb or somewhere similar. I've tried pulling those files out and letting seahorse rebuild it(don't know if that's the right thing to do) but it didn't help.

I do have to say that this is a frustrating thing about using a distro that is a repackage of another distro. You have problems that are upstream and then you end up chasing bug trackers and things from those. To complicate it even more we're based on an older release of Ubuntu. I've found that people like to recommend that the problem is fixed in the newest version of Ubuntu, which of course doesn't help anyone using Trisquel all that much.

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Indeed, it is very frustrating. But hey, cheer up, Toutatis is coming for the rescue: https://trisquel.info/wiki/roadmap -- sure it is a year late and we already have the 12.10 release pending, but I think it's worth it to have 100% Freedom.

Other 100% FaiF GNU/Linux distro which is always more up-to-date is Parabola, although it is KISS, Arch-based, not for the same "market" as Debian/Ubuntu/Trisquel.