A small issue with goblinrefuge?

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a_slacker_here
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Greetings ladies and gentlemen:

I know there are goblinrefuge users here, it seems I'm unable to find the site's maintainer and that's why I ask here.

When I upload a file (Even though it is small (35 mb)), the site tell's me: "Sorry, uploading this file will put you over your upload limit.". Anyone knows what is happening or how do I contact the maintainer?

My account is "random_dude".

Thank you.

jorgesumle
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Joined: 06/01/2016

That happened to me too. I emailed the company that runs it on 27/12/2016. I could only find the sales email (sales [at] salmonlabs [dot] net).

Hello SalmonLabs LLC,

I had an error in Goblin Refuge saying that uploading a file would put
me over my upload limit. The video itself weights only 1.3 MB. Is there
a way I can extend my upload limit? Are you planning to do that in the
future?

Kind regards,
Jorge

Haven't received a reply though. There is also another public Mediagoblin instance here: http://roaming-initiative.com/mediagoblin/

jxself
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Joined: 09/13/2010

People should start using other places that goblinrefuge. It's become a sort of "super node" in the MediaGoblin world. Even if, in theory, software is decentralized, if everyone's (or most of everyone) is using the same one it becomes less decentralized. Please start up a node yourself and help keep things decentralized.

onpon4
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Joined: 05/30/2012

Yeah, essentially this. Unfortunately, there aren't any other public ones running right now, so please, if you can host a public MediaGoblin instance, do so!

One problem is that video streaming is particularly expensive. I think MediaGoblin should address this by having an easy to use feature for charging uploaders for the use of the service. Maybe an option that says "allow uploads of videos, but only at a cost of X dollars for Y length of time" (and incorporate support for Paypal, Bitcoin, and whatever else can be supported). Maybe the person behind the Goblin Refuge can even work on this and get it into upstream MediaGoblin.

onpon4
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By the way, if you can't help make the ecosystem better, one place you can upload to in the meantime is the Internet Archive. This is what I'm currently doing.

ayleph
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Joined: 01/08/2017

Hi folks! I maintain GoblinRefuge.com in my spare time. I saw a link to this thread in the #mediagoblin channel on freenode. If you don't mind, I'd like to address some of the concerns brought up in this thread.

Upload Limits
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The site currently imposes a 1024 MB cumulative per-user upload limit. I implemented this because the hosting fees for storage and bandwidth were increasing too rapidly. GoblinRefuge.com generates no income and has no ads, and I currently pay for all of the hosting out of pocket.

It looks like there may be a way to user-specific upload limits, but I haven't tested this yet. Perhaps I could use this as a way to generate a small amount of income for the site. Would any of you be interested in paying a small fee to increase your upload limit?

Something else I could do is turn off the feature which keeps the original file. Currently when you upload a video to GoblinRefuge.com, we store both the original version and the transcoded version. I configured it this way because I assumed people would want to preserve the original version of the file, but I realize this takes up more storage space. I could consider turning this off moving forward.

Centralization
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I share concerns that GoblinRefuge.com is becoming too much of a central player, and I would love to see more MediaGoblin sites. I'm happy to help troubleshoot the installation and configuration of other MediaGoblin sites. I idle in #mediagoblin on freenode all the time, and I try to help out as much as I can. I'm hoping that once federation is implemented to allow communication between sites, that more sites will open up.

Monetization of Uploads
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Charging users to upload videos is an interesting idea. So far in my hosting experience, storage space is actually the more expensive item though. My storage provider (RackSpace Cloudfiles) charges for storage and for CDN traffic. The monthly CDN traffic charge is roughly the same month-to-month, but the storage charge increases each month because more and more files are being uploaded. Still, even recovering a little of that cost would be beneficial. I think implementing this would be much more difficult than setting up a fee for increased storage space, but I could be wrong.

Contact Information
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I began hosting GoblinRefuge.com to see how feasible it would be to run and maintain a MediaGoblin instance. I wanted to eventually offer paid MediaGoblin site hosting, and GoblinRefuge.com is the test-bed for that. It's ended up being kind of a hobby that I run in my spare time, and I never went to great lengths to provide contact information. The site has grown much larger than I expected, and I keep meaning to go back and add stuff like an about page, contact info, and a privacy policy, but I just can't find the time.

The only real advertised way to contact me regarding the site is through twitter (@goblinrefuge). If you've ever seen a server crash on GoblinRefuge.com, you may have seen the goblinpolice email address mentioned; you're welcome to send email to goblinpolice AT goblinrefuge as well. You can also find me on freenode under this nick. I prefer not to get GoblinRefuge.com questions in the #mediagoblin channel, but you're welcome to ping me there and we can figure out a way to communicate.

Thanks
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Thanks to all of you for using MediaGoblin in general and GoblinRefuge.com in particular. I appreciate the feedback and suggestions about the site. If any of you want to get involved in the MediaGoblin project, please come join #mediagoblin on freenode. We'd love to have more people involved in the code and more people running sites.

- ayleph

onpon4
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Joined: 05/30/2012

> Would any of you be interested in paying a small fee to increase your upload limit?

I would. :)

By the way, if buying higher upload limits are how you're going to handle it, you might want to add an indicator of how much stuff you have uploaded and how much space each file is taking up. That would make it easier to decide how much storage you want to have.

ayleph
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Joined: 01/08/2017

That's a fantastic idea! I'll look into that to see how easy it would be to add.