Something general and Pale Moon youtube HTML5 issue

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thl
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Hello,

As a very new user of Trisquel I want to say, that I really like the idea of complete free software and I want to support it!

Anyway, I needed quite a time, until I finally found the following link:

https://trisquel.info/en/issues/13803

I want to say, that I use Trisquel mini 64 bit, because the computer is rather old:

FUJITSU SIEMENS
Product Name: D2151-A1
YBBG120036
2,5 GB RAM, 3 GHz
Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2772] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions Device [1734:1084]
Kernel driver in use: i915
OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 10.1.3

The problem was, that the updater didn't properly work and synaptic couldn't start.
Now they do. But I don't understand, why I downloaded the current version of Trisquel and the problem has to be solved by searching in the forums and applying some patch... Will this be merged into the next current downloadable version of Trisquel, so both the updater and Synaptic will work from the beginning on?

As a new user, I decided to continue using Pale Moon in Trisquel. In Ubuntu it worked fine, I just wanted to move from Ubuntu.

But youtube videos are not shown properly in Pale Moon. I can hear the sound , but the video is black. I can only see the annotations.
Before I deactivated the gnatch plugin, so that only HTML5 is working. and gstreamer is enabled.
(about:config: media.gstreamer.enabled;true)
The funny thing is, that in midori all videos are visible.

But I don't like midori.

The reason for that is the result, that I saw, when using the following link with midori:

https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html

I know, this might be rather a question for the Pale Moon forum, but exactly the samer browser (25.7.0 x64) in Ubuntu on the same computer could show the videos.

Do You know a solution maybe?

onpon4
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I'm not sure about getting Pale Moon to work, but one other browser you could use is Abrowser (package abrowser), which like Pale Moon is based on Firefox, though I think I've heard that Pale Moon made a point of sticking with Firefox's old interface, which Abrowser doesn't do.

One thing I could suggest is to check your add-ons; it could be that an add-on is putting something over the video frame, but not stopping the video from playing. This buggy behavior sometimes happens with extensions that are supposed to replace the official player.

antiesnob
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Here goes my 2 cents:

* You can use the player of youtube by enabling it www.youtube.com/html5
* You can use HTML5 Video Everywhere
* You can download the video and watch it after it finished
* Here you can get more info https://trisquel.info/en/forum/internet-video-playback
* And here you can get more info https://trisquel.info/wiki/Internet_video

And here goes my Hundred dollar:

Get rid of Trisquel mini. Your system is not old nor rather old. Use Trisquel 7 64bits. 2.5 of RAM is nor good at all. That motherboard has support for dual channel for sure.

moxalt
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Agreed. You really should avoid Trisquel Mini like the plague. You seem
perfectly capable of running Trisquel proper- 2.5GB 64 bit is more than good
enough.

tomlukeywood
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i once ran trisquel mini and nether had any problems with it its not that bad!
and good if you only have 512mb of ram

moxalt
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If I had 512 MB of RAM I'd run a window manager. Like dwm or something. Or just
stay in text mode.

tomlukeywood
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yeah but trisquel is aimed at non technical users

moxalt
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Probably the best justification for LXDE even existing in Trisquel I've heard.
But it still doesn't explain the reasoning behind it being the basis of the
Trisquel Mini distribution rather than Xfce :P

onpon4
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Honestly, I think LXDE is more user-friendly than Xfce. It's much easier to screw something up or have trouble getting something to work in Xfce than in LXDE.

SuperTramp83

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I used both and I don't agree. Xfce is extremely user friendly and I personally find it by far the most stable and a very "screw something up" proof DE.

moxalt
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If I wasn't in Claws, I'd +1 the hell out of this post.

antiesnob
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I meant 2.5 is good in capacity terms but it also means that is not a dual channel memory and the frecuency of the 512 modele is lower to that memory module so that is less frecuency for both memory modules.

thl
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Thanks for answers so far!

I was convinced to install normal Trisquel GNOME. Everything fine.
Just when starting for the first time, was a bit strange. I set up complete encryption with LVM. When starting, it was somehow stuck during boot process and the last sentence at the bottom was something like "initializing first login" I am not sure. I waited long and then pressed CRTL C and the next step was that I had to enter the pass phrase. Everything fine now. Updater is working, so is Synaptic.

But:
I cannot install Pale Moon. I downloaded the installer and starting it just does not have an effect.
I tried Abrowser, but somehow I prefer Pale Moon. And by the way, HTML 5 videos do not work in Abrowser either. I will try more, with disabling the mentioned addons. A picture is shown and some text like "no MIME decoder found".
See here:
https://www.palemoon.org/technical.shtml#Firefox_Differences

Requirements for Pale Moon are those, do You know, if I have them all:

Pale Moon will not run at all without (reasonably updated versions of) the following dependencies:

GTK+
GLib
Pango
X.Org
libstdc++

Funny, that under Trisquel mini, Pale Moon was working...

@antiesnob
5th link is 404

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thl
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My mistake!
Now Pale Moon works fine, I did a mistake in the installer.... :-(

Now trying HTML5 to become running.

Calinou
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Pale Moon is proprietary: http://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml

> Even though Pale Moon is open source and the source is supplied under the Mozilla Public License, redistribution of the Pale Moon binaries is limited by certain conditions under a proprietary license by Moonchild Productions, as permitted under 3.2b of the MPL v2.0.

onpon4
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Indeed. Perhaps someone who actually wants Pale Moon's old style should fork Pale Moon and make their fork completely libre.

If you do use Pale Moon, you should only use the source distribution to avoid this proprietary license.

antiesnob
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I don't know what da phuk is palemoon. Do I live n a bubble???

thl
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Honestly I do not know, how to do it... I never used GCC.
What is Your alternative recommendation? Icecat?

I like about Palemoon, that it is rather small and does not use Australis.

onpon4
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You don't need to know how to use GCC to compile most programs. I've never compiled Firefox or any of its derivatives before, but it should have instructions in a file called something like "INSTALL" or "README". Usually it's either based on GNU Autoconf, or CMake. Autoconf's method is:

./configure
make

Whereas CMake's method generally is:

cmake .
make

Pretty simple. You can then do "sudo make install" to install the program, if you want.

thl
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Furthermore for me it is quite strange, why the author decided not to make it whole open source. I didn't understand his arguments.