Trisquel 8 Desktop Environment.

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ewlabonte

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I know there was a previous posting on this subject. But I was wondering what the most recent plans are, since Trisquel 8 must be in development by now. My personal preference is XFCE4 because it can be used without compositing and is in active development and more configurable than Gnome fallback, or whatever it is that Trisquel is currently using for their default desktop. The other most obvious option is Mate, the gnome fork, which I also like, but not as much as XFCE. I've included a screenshot which I've made to look as much as possible like the standard Trisquel desktop.

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Where is the screenshot?

ewlabonte

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Here it is. I tried before and had a hard time.

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Where do I get the wallpaper? It's nice.

The file size limit is, by the way, 2 megabytes. That's probably why your screenshot didn't come through the first time.

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I got it by googling "wallpaper" and looking at images. I can't find it now, but I uploaded it to imgur. Here's the link. http://imgur.com/7qeGN2D

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Thanks. Here you go.

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sradms0
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lodier, what desktop environment are you using?

loldier
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Yeah, as pointed out, it's fvwm, the default window manager/DE in OpenBSD/LibertyBSD.

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loldier you can take nice wallpapers from

https://wallpaperscraft.com/

and you can download images by resolution

loldier
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They have some really nice wallpapers. I wish they were PNG but JPG does the job as well.

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1995 called. It wants its desktop back.

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You can make xfce look almost exactly like the traditional Trisquel Gnome desktop. It looks a lot better than fallback. The panel can actually handle transparency. The same is true of Mate, of course, but there are a few things that I can't get Mate to do that are easy in XFCE.

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That desktop was a huge hit and has remained the standard for good reason. MS kept it right up to Windows 7 which was also widely popular.

It only abandoned that look and feel for Windows 8's tablet interface, and only then NOT in response to user demand, but rather as an iPad-fighting tactic, something MS force-fed desktop and laptop users to get them enmeshed and invested in a tablet ecosystem so they'd buy a Windows tablet when tablet-buying time came around. Typical user reaction ranged from confusion to frustration to outright fury, with utilities restoring a semblance of the beloved standard look and feel being heavily used. MS was dragged kicking and screaming into a grudging partial restoration of the status quo ante in 8.1 and a further step back in 10.

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MATE for rule them all.

ewlabonte

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Sauron's personal desktop environment.

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I'd say stick with GNOME fallback or something similar.
It's simple, familiar, inflexible, and stylish-- which is perfect for your average home user, a target audience for Trisquel.
XFCE4 is much more flexible, which can be intimidating or confusing for new users coming from Windows or OSX.
Users that want flexibility can take a few moments to install XFCE :p

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> Users that want flexibility can take a few moments to install XFCE :p

after the word "flexibility" you omitted a bunch of words, and I'd like to complete the sentence if you don't mind:

Users that want flexibility, stability, performance and sexyness can take a few moments to install XFCE
8-)

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The MATE packages in Ubuntu 16.04 are high quality and fully supported upstream. Why go back to the Gnome fallback hack job of previous releases?

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It doesn't have to be intimidating and the new users, if they are intimidated, don't have to utilize the configurability. It can be set up to look and act just like gnome fallback. If you don't like it that way, then you can learn to set it up the way you want.

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I'm too new to upvote I guess, so this reply will have to do.

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Budgie Desktop is also a good choice. However, it is not available in Debian/Ubuntu repositories. A lot of work is going for the sam.e

Eventhough it is on early stage of development, it provide a solid, traditional looking, modern desktop environment. It supports all gnome 3 shortcuts.

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Looks like Scroogle's surveillance Crummy OS. Of course it is simple, and people may enjoy that. I would vote XFCE, it's what I have installed on all instances of Trisquel for Windows users, and they seem to like it just fine. I use Whiskermenu though instead of the standard one for a more Windows 7ish feel.

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^ my man!

Nuncio Gómez
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LXDE Forever!!

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mmmm, now that's what I call a sexy desktop! +2142513252352345

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I'm not into telling anyone what to do or not to do, but I think it's worth asking you to consider what impression that picture and SuperTramp83's comment would give a women browsing these forums to see if she was welcome and respected in the Trisquel community. Not judging, just inviting reflection and awareness.

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She looks a little too young. Maybe you shouldn't advertise that you have a cache of underage photos on your PC.

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The photo is from a page wallpapers. I don't have any photo of young girls on my computer.

The link of the page wallpaper: http://www.thepaperwall.com/
The link of the photo: http://www.thepaperwall.com/wallpaper.php?view=7c6fa2358df0676a592f52e73afec0753c533fa2

Sorry for my bad english.

La foto es de una página de wallpapers. No tengo ninguna foto de chicas menores en mi equipo.

El link de la pagina de wallpapers: http://www.thepaperwall.com/
El link de la foto: http://www.thepaperwall.com/wallpaper.php?view=7c6fa2358df0676a592f52e73afec0753c533fa2

Un saludo!.

SuperTramp83

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seems pretty developed to me.

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At your age, everyone looks young. :D

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I've been playing around with xfce this afternoon and I've got to say it's great. Much better (in my opinion) than Gnome Fallback.

SuperTramp83

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some I used briefly, some for an extended period of time, xfce is, like the usa fellows say "da sh.t" !

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So anyway, nobody knows what the plans are for Trisquel 8 as far as desktop environments are concerned?

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AFAIK the decision has been made to use Mate. I think this is a good decision, and I might start recommending Trisquel 8 to new users switching from Windows/MacOSX (I currently recommend Mint as a stepping stone from proprietary OS to fully libre GNU/Linux).

GNOME 3 is great, but in most metrics I've seen it's the third most resource-hungry DE after Unity and KDE. Even in Fallback, it probably still uses more resources than XFCE, and definitely uses much more resources than Mate. There's a good blog piece from 2013 on memory usage of DEs here, complete with a bar graph:
https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops/