Trisquel, Debian and Free Software

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Davide0
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Debian is 100% free and so is Trisquel. But in Debian it's possible to install non-free software. When I'm using Trisquel my TP-Link WN422G (usb wifi adapter) works perfectly without any modifications, but on Debian requires non-free firmware (firmware-atheros). What is going on? Which OS is wrong?

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Which version of Debian do you have?

chaosmonk

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If Stretch or older you'll need this.

https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-ath9k-htc

Ignacio.Agullo
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On 01/12/17 22:11, wrote:
> Debian is 100% free and so is Trisquel. But in Debian it's possible to
> install non-free software.

You don't have a clue, my dear.

In Trisquel is possible to install non-free software.

In Debian not only is possible to install non-free software, but
Debian itself supplies it.

So... 100% free? Haha!

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calher

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Also, Debian includes stuff which might require some proprietary code,
like Chromium and Electron, which Parabola removed for this reason.

jxself
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"Which OS is wrong?"

They're both right. The firmware was originally proprietary but was freed on March 8, 2013. But it didn't appear in Debian Unstable until March ***2017***, an entire four years later and even then, it won't appear in a Debian stable release until Debian 10 codename Buster, which is probably going to be released in 2019 (my estimate), an entire ***six years*** after the free firmware was released. In the meantime they've had a number of stable releases that it could have been put into but instead left people to use the non-free firmware instead. So much for a distro that supposedly values freedom. I should point out that the free firmware package was available within Trisquel very quickly after the release in 2013.

quantumgravity
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Yeah, as if trisquel is up-to-date and fast with releases...

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Yeah, I had a similar experience with Motif dependencies for a program I
wanted to use. This is another reason why I won't use Debian; they
don't have my back, they don't even use the same definition of 'free'.