Ubuntu 15.10 and above moving to Snappy instead of DEB. What will the Trisquel team do?

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t3g
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http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-15.10-DEB-To-Snap

I just read that the next version of Ubuntu (15.10) and future versions will move away from the .deb format in favor of their home grown Snappy container format. I don't know how this will affect Trisquel and if Trisquel will continue to use .deb or adapt the new format.

If you want more info about Snappy, you can check out http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1434 but I am not sure about licensing. I'm guessing it will be the same as Upstart where they will use a draconian CLA and force you to use a copyleft license while they re-license it under a non-free license for their phone and corporate partners.

Legimet
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I have always been in favor of switching Trisquel to Debian-based. And something tells me that this "Snappy" will keep getting delayed and never happen, like Mir.

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quantumgravity
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The video reminded me a lot about the Apple commercials.

I don't know the impact the new package system will have but if it is free software and it is good, then it should be welcome. If the change happen, Trisquel developers must make changes to the helpers in order to modify the new packages.

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Maybe this snappy itself will be free software, but it can isolate the ubuntu-ecosystem even more, which might get filled up with proprietary software;
trisquel could end up in a bad position that way.

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None of the FAQ t3g shared with us make reference to Snappy being proprietary nor Free nor Open source. I hope Snappy will be, at least, open source: Ubuntu cannot provide a better system without Debian. The work Debian does is so titanic that there is no company that can handle it so moving away from Debian is a poor decision. Having that in mind, I think the new package management system should be related to DEB somehow.

t3g
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Here's a link with more info and answered questions:

http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html

davidnotcoulthard (not verified)
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So what will this mean? I'm guessing those who want the traditionally small size of everything outside the large-file-media-filled ~/ can stick with APT-dpkg and those who want Windows-style ability to install an app without thinking of dependency hell at the expense of HDD space can opt for Snappy?

If so, that'd be good since the choice of a major distro offering the Windows-style ability to install an app regardless of dependancy is more or less nonexistant - and I'm sure there are people out there who want such a hoice.