the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null

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alimiracle
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its seme the Ubuntu Software Center will go to /dev/null
go go we all not nede you
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2974148/software/canonical-is-letting-the-ubuntu-software-center-wither-and-die.html

Dave_Hunt

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Bye, Software Center; you will not be missed. What of Gnome App
Install? Do people other than me use it? I use Synaptic or the
command line for managing software.

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tomlukeywood
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" Do people other than me use it?"
i personally don’t use it a lot but its good to have for
non-technical users
and i am sure people do use it

Chris

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I actually worked with the original lead developer of the Ubuntu Software Software Center in a past life. The guy got two shots to get it right working for two different distributions and failed miserably both times. While the concept of a point and click store was a major improvement to a command line package management system the guy was/is an overall idiot. He doesn't care about GNU/Linux or free software nor get the issues of writing a GUI in what amounts to a scripting language. He didn't get why free software was so important to a GNU/Linux desktop/system (that is unrelated to the ethical reasons, there are business reasons, to prefer it, pertaining to ease-of-use).

This all goes back to a failure by Canonical to actually tackle the desktop. You *need* a clear business plan and if you don't have it you're not going to succeed. How Mark Shuttleworth ever got to where he is financially I'll never know. I never had much confidence in Canonical succeeding on the desktop. However it appears they've succeeded somewhere. Canonical's initiated an IPO which I don't think they'd do unless they were in a solid position somewhere.

I think there might be all of one, maybe two companies which ever actually had a solid business plan to tackle the desktop. One was a commercial distributor in the 1990s who was going to port all its widely used at the time proprietary MS Windows applications to GNU/Linux and had a full software stack (except for an OS). The company starting losing money (aww dahh your making an investment) and the CEO got scared- then got paid off by Microsoft to kill its GNU/Linux road map.

The other was a company I worked for who was focused on the desktop for several years and only failed because of an idiot business move by the major shareholder. * When your the major shareholder and your successful (ie turning company into a profitable business) CEO threatens to quit over illegal actions you plan to take, stealing money from the company, instead of properly issuing dividends, etc. and then putting in an incompetent CEO... guess whats going to happen?* I wouldn't call them being an ideal entity from a free software perspective nor even doing everything otherwise right. No. There were lots of issues holding the company back (solvable ones). However they did have a product that was profitable. One of the interesting tid-bits here was an ingenious plan to build the company off Microsoft's dollar. Something like 5 million was turned into 25 million. Microsoft paid the company to change its name as they were afraid of losing there trademark on "Windows", but that was because "Windows" isn't a valid trademark (ie the use of Windows to describe a window desktop environment pre-dates Microsoft's trademark).

t3g
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"At the age of 22 Shuttleworth founded Thawte, a digital certificate and internet security company which he sold to VeriSign for $575 million in 1999, when he was 26. He used a fraction of his wealth to start HBD Capital (now called Knife Capital), a Cape Town-based emerging markets investment fund. HBD has made a series of successful exits including Fundamo, a mobile financial services company which was acquired by Visa for $110 million in 2011; and csense, which was acquired by GE Intelligent Platforms the same year."

Source: http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celebrity-business/entrepreneurs/mark-shuttleworth-net-worth/

tomlukeywood
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"Just as SystemD forced march is the end of linux."

apt-get install sysvinit systemd-

also:
http://devuan.org/

alimiracle
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"The move away from X........................... its the end of Ubuntu" !!!!!!!!!!!!!
hay x must dai
It is much like Malformation in The face of Princess

JadedCtrl
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Why does everyone hate X?
What am I missing here...?

Legimet
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I don't hate X, but Wayland is the future.

t3g
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I think they want to move everything to Snappy with Click packages. These packages are all-in-one which will include the dependencies along with the software in one package.

http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html

moxalt
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Why?

Turtleman
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I think it makes it easier to install from independent sources.

Turtleman
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I like the Lubuntu Software Center, it's pretty fast.

moxalt
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Same thing.

Turtleman
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What do you mean same thing? Are you saying you agree, or are you saying they are the same program?

moxalt
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Same program. My point was that the criticism still applies.

Turtleman
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Oh, ok. I thought maybe you meant they are literally the same.

What do you think is better? Gnome-app-install?

moxalt
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I'm assuming Gnome-app-install is the add/remove applications thing that came
by default. Is it?

I don't use graphical package management anyway. I prefer command line tools. I
use apt-get and dpkg coupled with an eye on the Trisquel repo browser.

Turtleman
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Yes, it's the default manager that comes with Trisquel.

BTW, if you are only using free repositories, why does it matter what GUI you are looking at? Shouldn't all the apps be free anyway?

davidnotcoulthard
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Nothing beats Synaptic :)

I actually find Pamac to be the 2nd-best GUI front-end to any package manager - maybe tied with YaST (haven't tried OpenSUSE in years!)