[URGENT] Parabola and Trisquel MISSING in PRISM-break!

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gd_scania
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https://prism-break.org/en/categories/windows/#operating-systems
I think I need to liaise with PRISM-break admin in GitHub which our notable GNU systems, Parabola and Trisquel, are missing from their list, and our GNU systems are always BEST due to free kernels and their recommended systems, namely Debian (no contrib or nonfree), Fedora, FreeBSD, are still tolerant to the nonfree kernels.

SuperTramp83

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Well, you should have read all the page you linked because then you would have found out the reason why Buguntu based distros are not there.

https://github.com/nylira/prism-break/issues/334

Also, I don't really know what exactly "tolerant to the nonfree kernels" means but Debian has been shipping with a deblobbed kernel since version 6

gd_scania
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I have already reported my issue in their GitHub front page, just needing them to add Parabola and Trisquel to their site, but not yet directly responded, anyway thanks.

onpon4
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This is not "urgent". I stopped recommending people go to that page years ago, probably no more than a month after it came up. It's not really a useful resource.

GNUbahn
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Can you recommend another source of information of the kind that prism-break is intended for?

SuperTramp83

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this one is good -> https://www.privacytools.io/

gd_scania
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Arch is honestly not worthy to be mentioned anymore for melting nonfree into main channels, Parabola is instead needed to be on-top, Qubes has Debian and Fedora templates which they have missed this.

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I'm honestly not sure what prism-break is intended for. Here's everything you need to do to avoid being tracked:

1. Don't use a cell phone, or even own one.
2. Don't use any proprietary software. That means hardware which respects your freedom (see the FSF's "Respects Your Freedom" certification), and a 100% libre OS (see gnu.org/distros).
3. Use the Tor Browser Bundle for browsing the Web, in "High Security" mode, and never identify yourself.
4. For other Internet connectivity (such as email), use Tails. Tails can also be used for Web browsing if desired. Again, never identify yourself.
5. Keep all software you use up-to-date.

Really, that's it. All this other crap about what services to use and specifically what programs to use is bunk. If you're anonymous, it doesn't matter that you're using Google. If the software is libre and up-to-date, it doesn't matter if you use foo or bar. So much simpler than the mess presented at prism-break.

gd_scania
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By being needed to continue using cell phones, flashing custom ROMs and F-droid, finally not installing Google Play is best?

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Even if your device runs only libre software, connecting to the telephone network with it allows your location to be triangulated. If you would like to send and receive phone calls and text messages without being tracked, JMP allows you to do so through the internet.

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I am still needed to use just few nonfree apps due to my legacy needs to contact between friends, and I no longer make and receive calls anymore to fully defend against malicious calls those are common in my country, there are PLENTY stupid people and they fully and unknowingly ignore free software.

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Teach them. Use http://meet.jit.si or http://vroom.im for instance. They only need a Web browser.

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ADFENO
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+1 Pavala ;)

There is also XMPP, which has the advantage of having multiple clients
and service providers. In fact, rescent discussions in this field of
instant communications, led me to believe that XMPP is the most stable
we have right now.

Note that XMPP already supports direct client-to-client communication
through the XEPs/extensions related to Jingle, and this one can be
paired with WebRTC --- if the service provider wants to. Otherwise,
WebRTC becomes yet again a bridgeless island.

See also:

- On the limitations of interoperability between XMPP and WebRTC:

-

- On the need for XMPP>

- (under CC BY-SA 4.0).

- It doesn't talk about XMPP, but shows the urgency of the things.

- (under CC BY-SA 4.0)

- At the end, talks about the need for XMPP + OMEMO

name at domain writes:

> + https://palava.tv/
>

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I also need to recommend few libre social networks, like Joomla (blogging), Drupal (libre BBS), Diaspora (similar to nonfree Fuckbook and nonfree G+), SourceForge (free software and open source OS), GNUsocial (micro-social), NextCloud (FTP), OpenStreetMap (GIS), Telegram (social broadcasting and secret messenger, but nonfree servers), back to us.

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Indeed.

For social networks, we have: Diaspora and Pump.io.

For micro-blogging: GNU Social, and Mastodon (perhaps?)

As for SourceForge, as far as I understand it, it's more targeted to
development of general projects. Also, there is a nice comparison of
similar places ([1]), and also NotABug, which would appear ranked with
"B" in the reference given at [1] if it were more popular (see [2]).

[1] .

[2] .

name at domain writes:

> I also need to recommend few libre social networks, like Joomla
> (blogging), Drupal (libre BBS), Diaspora (similar to nonfree Fuckbook
> and nonfree G+), SourceForge (free software and open source OS),
> GNUsocial (micro-social), NextCloud (FTP), OpenStreetMap (GIS),
> Telegram (social broadcasting and secret messenger, but nonfree
> servers), back to us.
>

--
- https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno
- Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com
gratis).
- "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comunicar
instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo.
- Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard
- Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft
Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV.
- Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU
GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF
(apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.

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The others mentioned are:

- Mapping (OpenStreetMap), although I don't know if the server software
is free/libre and allows descentralized/federated communication with
other service providers by default.

- Resources that can be used to provide websites (Joomla, Drupal) and
storage (NextCloud), although not social networks, and not even
descentralized/federated.

- As for instant communication, XMPP would be the best bet for everyone
now (see [1][2]), it even supports messaging to mobile/SMS through an
external service provider ([3]).

[1] (under CC BY-SA 4.0).

[2] (under CC BY-SA 4.0).

[3] (under CC BY-SA 4.0).

name at domain writes:

> I also need to recommend few libre social networks, like Joomla
> (blogging), Drupal (libre BBS), Diaspora (similar to nonfree Fuckbook
> and nonfree G+), SourceForge (free software and open source OS),
> GNUsocial (micro-social), NextCloud (FTP), OpenStreetMap (GIS),
> Telegram (social broadcasting and secret messenger, but nonfree
> servers), back to us.
>

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If you have to use a cell phone, Replicant + F-droid is the best. The second best solution (Replicant only runs on old models and not all their peripherals are supported) is the Librem 5, which will include some proprietary drivers. Then, LineageOS (full of proprietary drivers) + F-Droid. Never install Google Apps if you care about your freedom and privacy.

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I NO LONGER use Google Play since these days and switched to F-droid and thanks, my mobile system is AOKP (I was used to try Lineage and experiences are NG due to high unstability), my mobile hardware is Samsung J715 and I care how much nonfree firmware there still are from my AOKP.