use of Trisquel with wubi?

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markhinoz
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Is it possible and/or ethical to install Trisquel inside Windows using Wubi as well as it can be done with Ubuntu?

Thanks anyone in advance for reply.

markhinoz
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May anyone answer this, please?

AndrewT

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For reasons that should be obvious, Trisquel's LiveCDs do not include Wubi. We do not want to the user to continue to depend on Windows even as they use our fully-free distro.

markhinoz
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Sorry if that should be so obvious to everybody, I think that kindness is always welcome, and I only thought that GNU and floss also care just a little bit about newbies like I am, since the spreading of this philosophy is also important, I just think that newbies don't know if wubi is written in a "libre" way, and I agree with everybody that tries to avoid the dependence on windows but in fact I kindly asked if that could be ethical.
I truly understand your correct point of view but perhaps, honestly, I didn't think that every single aspect of the question above were so obvious to everybody who approaches the Gnu point of view at the beginning.
Since, perhaps, a newby can't know exactly if it could be tecnically possible to install with some "libre" media a system within a proprietary one, without breaking or not the Gnu rules.
It was all about doubts.
I just think that Gnu is about freedom in an INTELLIGENT way, and it includes comprehension too and also humility, at the top of the idea of collaboration and respect for different approaches.

Thanks for your reply.

markhinoz
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Anyway, I know wubi is not inside the Trisquel CD, I was just wondering if a kind of installation like that is technically and ethically comparable or different to/from a virtual intallation such as one within virtualbox for instance... You still could think it should be a so obviuous or stupid question, but, I'm sorry I dont properely agree with you. My question was not properely answered. I thought the intention of the question I made was not so obvious too, I can immagine someone else with a non-huge experience could wonder about it.
Being Trisquel based on Ubuntu. I may assume that maybe, being it based on a libre linux kernel, it couldn't tecnically work with wubi, but my knowledge doesn't allow me to know whether it can tecnically be true or not. And, in my tecnical ignorance, I may think that the comparison between wubi or virtualized installations could be related to an ethical matter.
Thank you

iKonaK
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I have never used Wubi so I don't know if is technically possible, however, since Trisquel is a clean/libre Ubuntu I suppose it is technically possible.

As far as I'm concern is OK to install any free/libre GNU/Linux distro by any method, even Wubi (GNU GPL v.2 or later), is not ethical to use proprietary software; still, when it comes to including Wubi on the Trisquel installation disk I have to agree with AndrewT.

markhinoz
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Thank you very much, I can see you understood the simple need of my question and I agree with the both of you about the impossibility of including wubi on the Trisquel cd, of course. A "corresponding" thing about it is the lack of some restricted extras which cannot be included in some distros even if they use a less restrictive policy. But not always it means that it can be impossible or nonsense. Thank you, I'm glad you understood. Since I think that if it could be possible it would only be a matter of freedom and choice, at least for absolutely beginners at first, in order to be able to learn the transition as painlessly and easily as possible. And help the spread. That would seem a smart thing to me. Just one of the first approaches to encourage people avoid the use of proprietary software.

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On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 19:54 +0200, name at domain wrote:
> For reasons that should be obvious, Trisquel's LiveCDs do not include Wubi.
> We do not want to the user to continue to depend on Windows even as they use
> our fully-free distro.

And here I was thinking that wubi was an input system for Chinese on
computers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_method

Does this mean I'm getting old, or that I just don't care about Windows?

AndrewT

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Ubuntu has had Wubi for several releases now. It allows you to use your Windows partition to run the OS instead of making a new partition, with the only technical disadvantage being a very slight speed decrease.