What computer should i get?

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dread71
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I'm thinking about getting an old think pad that I can put libreboot on. I am using a optiplex 755 with a non free bios now. It has to have a CPU without management engine. I want to be as private and free as possible. What do you guys recommend?

hack and hack
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If you can find an X60, you can put Libreboot on it.
You can try a Samsung np-nc10, wich has a BIOS, but the management engine there poses zero threat. I've posed about it somewhere on the forum, if you're interested.
Of course, there's also the EOMA68 card.

Then you have options that potentially cost more.
Best to check Libreboot's website for more models.

SuperTramp83

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If you have the money OR if you are spiderman and can flash one -> https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/

Misty
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I was looking at that about a year ago, would love to afford it.

vita_cell
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If you need powerful computer, you can get Gigabyte ES2L and put Xeon 5460 into it, and some modern Kepler GPU (gt730 gddr5, gtx770 4gb...).

lilos
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On libreboot page they said PCI-E slot not work on Gigabyte ES2L.
I was thinking to make one mini libre pc for 4k using this board and with same Xeon 5460.

vita_cell how i can install last mesa 12.xx on trisquel is there some
good repo ? i tryed

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa

Supported Ubuntu versions:

- 16.04 LTS (xenial)
- 16.10 (yakkety)

Is there some backports for 14.04 ?

Джордж
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Like SuperTramp83 I recommend a T400 as well. You can put 8GB of RAM in it, 2 Harddrives preferably SSD, and choose between screen resolutions.
See here for details: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T400

A T400 can be found around a 100 bucks (or cheaper) on ebay. You don‘t need much to flash it yourself. Follow the guide closely and take your time and you will be okay in the end. Just do it. ;-)

SuperTramp83

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Джордж - can you link the guide for flashing the 400? tx beforehand.

Джордж
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https://libreboot.org/docs/install/t400_external.html
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/bbb_setup.html

You should make a list of things you will need, for example a new Wifi card (e.g. Atheros), a Pomona SOIC clip, a Raspberry Pi or a Beagle Bone Black (there are other devices) +display, thermal paste, pin header/ jumper cables and so on.

You also need lots of space to work and a little time. You can and should take photos in the process of disassembling and reassembling the T400 in order to help you remembering each step. You can draw the board and other parts of the T400 on paper and put the screws where they belong. I did this to help me with every step. It will be easier in the end.

I used a Raspberry Pi because I had one already. You will need to know about the pinout of your flashing device, in my case the Pi:
https://pinout.xyz/

If you're not all thumbs it isn't that hard. It is rather time consuming and a little annoying. ;-)

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The laptops being suggested are good choices and definitely the most powerful systems you can get that are freedom-respecting. But I want to give a recommendation for EOMA68 if you don't need a lot of power right now and can wait until next Spring:

https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop

Whereas the old x86 systems that have been reverse-engineered are basically a dead-end (they give you freedom now but without giving you a path to more freedom-respecting systems later), EOMA68 is giving us a path for further development, so I think it's definitely good to support it. Future upgrades will also be cheap, which should make it a better long-term investment.

SuperTramp83

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That is very correct, Onpon. I agree, I recommend you buy an EOMA too.