What version should I choose? Mini or Standart?

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stupidcache
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Hello People.
I have a HP Compaq Business Notebook nx6310. What do you think is the best choise for me?. Trisquel 7 Mini or Standart?
Computer specifications:

CPU: Intel Centrino T1300 / 1.66 GHz
Cache (L1/L2): 64/2048 KB
Chipset: Mobile Intel 940GML Express
RAM MEMORY: DDR2 SDRAM 2 GB
Graphics Processor: Intel GMA 950 (128 MB Shared Memory)
Audio Codec: AD1981HD
Hard Drive: Western Digital 320 GB (5400 rpm) (probably sata 2)

I like Gnome 3, my main computer runs cinnamon, but I'm not sure if I Have enough hardware in my laptop. Thanks!

SuperTramp83

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Hi and welcome to the forum of Triskello :)

With your hardware specs you will be perfectly fine with the full, standard, that is to say the gnome-flashback version of Trisquel.

strypey
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You can see my full specs run-downs by clicking on my username. My Acer Aspire One has similar processor speed (Intel® Atom™ CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz × 2), but only 1GB of RAM. Trisquel 7 Standard does not run usably on it with GNOME or GNOME Fallback. At the moment I have switched desktops to Enlightenment E17, but I plan to try Trisquel 7 Mini on it soon.

My Fujitsu Lifebook has 2GB of RAM, and an Intel Centrino Duo (Intel® Core™2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz × 2), and runs Trisquel 7 Standard with the default GNOME desktop just fine, although if I want to play graphically demanding games like 0AD, they run better under OpenBox. I've also tested Mint 17.3 with Cinammon on this laptop, and it runs fine too.

It seems to me like RAM makes a bigger difference than processor speed as to whether a laptop can support eye-candy. My advice would be to give Standard a try first. GNOME will be much friendlier to you than LXDE, especially since you're already familar with it. If you are getting hanging, freezing, and app crashes (especially in the browser), then try Mini.

onpon4
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Honestly, I'd personally only recommend Mini if you're looking for the smallest download size. GNOME Flashback isn't much heavier than LXDE.

strypey
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Maybe not, but it's a *lot* heavier than Enlightenment E17 or OpenBox. If LXDE does little to reduce the resource consumption compared to GNOME Fallback, it might be time to consider a more light-weight desktop for Mini in Trisquel 8. Otherwise there will be thousands of laptops like my Acer Aspire One that are not supported by Trisquel at all, and from the ones I've tried so far, by any usable, 100% free distro at all. I'd hate to move to a non-FSF-endorsed distro to keep my Acer working, but I think it would be more ethical than turning working hardware into e-waste.

onpon4
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Don't be silly. GNOME Flashback's requirements aren't too heavy for most available systems, and the same applies to LXDE. The DEs you're suggesting are extremely lightweight, sure, but that comes at a cost of user-friendliness. People who want them should do a net-install.

In fact, I've argued in the opposite direction. Because the difference between GNOME Flashback and LXDE is so small, I think the main version of Trisquel should just be regular GNOME. Mini could either be kept as LXDE, or changed to MATE; either way, it would suffice for most available old systems.

stupidcache
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Hello People.
I have a HP Compaq Business Notebook nx6310. What do you think is the best
choise for me?. Trisquel 7 Mini or Standart?
Computer specifications:

CPU: Intel Centrino T1300 / 1.66 GHz
Cache (L1/L2): 64/2048 KB
Chipset: Mobile Intel 940GML Express
RAM MEMORY: DDR2 SDRAM 2 GB
Graphics Processor: Intel GMA 950 (128 MB Shared Memory)
Audio Codec: AD1981HD
Hard Drive: Western Digital 320 GB (5400 rpm) (probably sata 2)

I like Gnome 3, my main computer runs cinnamon, but I'm not sure if I Have
enough hardware in my laptop. Thanks!

onpon4
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Joined: 05/30/2012

Don't be silly. GNOME Flashback's requirements aren't too heavy for most
available systems, and the same applies to LXDE. The DEs you're suggesting
are extremely lightweight, sure, but that comes at a cost of
user-friendliness. People who want them should do a net-install.

In fact, I've argued in the opposite direction. Because the difference
between GNOME Flashback and LXDE is so small, I think the main version of
Trisquel should just be regular GNOME. Mini could either be kept as LXDE, or
changed to MATE; either way, it would suffice for most available old systems.

strypey
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Joined: 05/14/2015

Maybe not, but it's a *lot* heavier than Enlightenment E17 or OpenBox. If
LXDE does little to reduce the resource consumption compared to GNOME
Fallback, it might be time to consider a more light-weight desktop for Mini.
Otherwise there will be thousands of laptops like my Acer Aspire One that are
not supported by Trisquel at all, and from the ones I've tried so far, by any
usable, 100% free distro at all. I'd hate to move to a non-FSF-endorsed
distro to keep my Acer working, but I think it would be more ethical than
turning working hardware into e-waste.

stupidcache
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Thanks!. Definitely i will install Trisquel 7 full :)

Dave_Hunt

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Good idea, and welcome to Trisquel.

stupidcache
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I'm glad to tell you that i have founded another ddr2 slot under the keyboard. so, i have 4gb now.
Everything is better than the expected.

SuperTramp83

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ha! excellent, although on a GNU distro, unless you run some very big and heavy applications you will never use more than 2 gb of your RAM. I think I never touched the 2 gigs ever since I started..
Anyway, when my old lappy burnt and before this one I'm on now, I used full gnome flashback on an Atom 1 ghz and 1 gb of RAM and it ran absolutely fine :)

onpon4
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It can start to matter with the bigger DEs. I once accidentally left one of the RAM cards in an old laptop I had dislodged, so that it only had 1 GB of RAM available instead of 2 GB. GNOME Shell suffered from some slowdown as a result.

Of course, Trisquel uses GNOME Flashback, which is relatively lightweight and not likely to run into problems with 1 GB of RAM.

onpon4
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It can start to matter with the bigger DEs. I once accidentally left one of
the RAM cards in an old laptop I had dislodged, so that it only had 1 GB of
RAM available instead of 2 GB. GNOME Shell suffered from some slowdown as a
result.

Of course, Trisquel uses GNOME Flashback, which is relatively lightweight and
not likely to run into problems with 1 GB of RAM.

SuperTramp83

I am a translator!

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Joined: 10/31/2014

ha! excellent, although on a GNU distro, unless you run some very big and
heavy applications you will never use more than 2 gb of your RAM. I think I
never touched the 2 gigs ever since I started..
Anyway, when my old lappy burnt and before this one I'm on now, I used full
gnome flashback on an Atom 1 ghz and 1 gb of RAM and it ran absolutely fine
:)

MeNoMore
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Welcome young Paddawan.

I have the full version on my old HP, and I had no problems.

I think new users should go with full, unless you have a small laptop, in any way.

SuperTramp83

I am a translator!

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Joined: 10/31/2014

Hi and welcome to the forum of Triskello :)

With your hardware specs you will be perfectly fine with the full, standard,
that is to say the gnome-flashback version of Trisquel.

strypey
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Joined: 05/14/2015

You can see my full specs run-downs by clicking on my username. My Acer
Aspire One has similar processor speed (Intel® Atom™ CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz ×
2), but only 1GB of RAM. Trisquel 7 Standard does not run usably with GNOME
or GNOME Fallback. At the moment I have switched desktops to Enlightenment
E17, but I plan to try Trisquel 7 Mini on it soon.

My Fujitsu Lifebook has 2GB of RAM, and an Intel Centrino Duo (Intel®
Core™2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz × 2), and runs Trisquel 7 Standard with the
default GNOME desktop just fine, although if I want to play graphically
demanding games like 0AD, they run better under OpenBox. I've also tested
Mint 17.3 with Cinammon on this laptop, and it runs fine too.

It seems to me like RAM makes a bigger difference than processor speed as to
whether a laptop can support eye-candy. My advice would be to give Standard a
try first. GNOME will be much friendlier to you than LXDE, especially since
you're already familar with it. If you are getting hanging, freezing, and app
crashes (especially in the browser), then try Mini.

onpon4
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Joined: 05/30/2012

Honestly, I'd personally only recommend Mini if you're looking for the
smallest download size. GNOME Flashback isn't much heavier than LXDE.

stupidcache
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Joined: 01/26/2016

Thanks!. Definitely i will install Trisquel 7 full :)

Dave_Hunt

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Joined: 09/19/2011

Good idea, and welcome to Trisquel.

stupidcache
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Joined: 01/26/2016

I'm glad to tell you that i have found another ddr2 slot under the keyoboard.
so, i have 4gb now. Everything is better than the expected.

MeNoMore
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Joined: 10/05/2015

Welcome young Paddawan.

I have the full version on my old HP, and I had no problems.

I think new users should go with full, unless you have a small laptop, in any
way.