ultra-ultra-minimalist distro - TinyCore

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andyprough
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Iscritto: 02/12/2015

TinyCore with its FLTK/FLWM desktop, using just 20mb of ram.

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lanun
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Our insomniac mailing list user did beat you on that one: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/tinycore.

Being insomniac makes these things easier, I guess. I have been sleeping like a lamb these days, and clearly my minimalist distro discovery rate has dramatically fallen. Thank goodness, you are here to keep us aware.

That TinyCore really is something, have to give it a go.

andyprough
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Iscritto: 02/12/2015

>That TinyCore really is something, have to give it a go.

So this proves the ancient axiom - "tiny minds think alike".

lanun
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Iscritto: 04/01/2021

True. "Miminalits" is too long a word to properly echo the concept anyway, and too prone to typos, so I have now taken to using "tiny" instead. If it's not tiny, it's bloated.

lanun
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Iscritto: 04/01/2021

I feel such a power user.

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andyprough
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Iscritto: 02/12/2015

Feel the raw power!!

You've got to admit, it is verrry responsive. Really too responsive. I would probably be clicking on the wrong stuff if I used it much, because the desktop is so jumpy.

loldier
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X is bloated!

"Many people at Lysator prefered MGR instead of using Sun's own SunView (nee SunTools) and, later, many still preferred MGR instead of running the X Window System. X, even on the high-end 3/80 workstations we later had, was not a pleasant experience, probably mostly because of memory starvation. It wasn't until we had SPARC CPUs that most users started abandoning MGR."

https://hack.org/mc/mgr/

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andyprough
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Iscritto: 02/12/2015

TinyCore (and I believe some of the Puppy variants) don't use regular X - they use "TinyX": https://github.com/tinycorelinux/tinyx

It supposedly is about a 500kb complete x server, with "everything unnecessary stripped, and some custom tweaks for user-friendliness and faster startup": http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=16299.0

It would be pretty fun to try to get this running on Void with dwm or some other small window manager.

I started blacklisting different useless kernel modules yesterday, and got Void to start with about 65mb of memory, and DWM to start with about 113mb. So I was able to shed about 30mb just by disabling kernel modules that I wasn't using anyway.

lanun
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Iscritto: 04/01/2021

> X is bloated!

> "TinyX"

Tininess is truly awesome. It can even unbloat bloated things.

andyprough
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Iscritto: 02/12/2015

I want to hang out with the "TinyX is bloat" crowd.

lanun
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Iscritto: 04/01/2021

As long as it is a tiny crowd, count me in.

gaseousness
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Iscritto: 08/25/2020

Are those terminals transparent?

lanun
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Iscritto: 04/01/2021

Indeed. Some hardly bearable bloat comes with CorePlus.

If you want the really tiny thing, you want Core. TinyCore is already an unnecessarily bloated version of Core. "BloatedCore" would be a more appropriate name.

jxself
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Iscritto: 09/13/2010

Not quite minimial enough. Gotta eliminate the GUI. This attached image is all that one *really* needs.

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loldier
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Iscritto: 02/17/2016

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andyprough
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Iscritto: 02/12/2015

The "jason@valencia:~" looks like bloat.

All you need is the "$".

loldier
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Iscritto: 02/17/2016

Why pay top dollar for Internet access.

When there's a solution: downgrade to dial-up.

https://jxself.org/dialup.shtml

"So what's good about dial-up? The slow 56 kbit/s speed can be a big turn-off in today's fast-paced world, but that's not to say this form of internet connectivity doesn't have its upsides.

One is that dial-up is cost-effective. As far as pricing for high-speed internet service, I pay almost $100 per month. And that's just for internet access. It's not one of those bundled packages that I've seen the cable company offer with TV or whatever else included.

In addition to being expensive, in a study by Ookla Speedtest, the U.S. isn't anywhere near the top 10 -- ranked 42nd globally for upload speeds -- in countries where those faster internet connections are far less expensive. Why pay all that money for something that ranks so poorly globally?

I almost had access to a 1 gbps fiber optic connection. This city already has a fiber network that's been built and paid for with taxes from the people living here. Why not let the people use it? The telephone and cable companies made sure that didn't happen. Now the people here get to be stuck with their slower internet access."

http://web.archive.org/web/20200809030629/https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/56k-usb-dial-modem

Magic Banana

I am a member!

I am a translator!

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Iscritto: 07/24/2010

Do you really need that sign? Just have nothing:
unset PS1
Use a stethoscope (it consumes no RAM) to monitor the CPU fan and figure out when the last-executed command ends. That said, commands take RAM: it is better to not run any.

loldier
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Iscritto: 02/17/2016

RAM-poor are seldom choosers.

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lanun
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Iscritto: 04/01/2021

> a stethoscope

This sounds like horribly bloated hardware, and I could not find any in the RYF certified list. I have now taken to using a tiny wooden spoon, one hit per one-bit on your regular wooden table and you can do all your computing RAM-less, using 100% free software.

Note that blueprints for the tiny spoon are licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License with no invariant sections, and exclusively consist of the spoon itself. On-going rebates on the ten-spoon multithreading kit, technical assistance included, although I recommend one tiny thread at a time.