totally free software email client?
is there any all free email client some where? the evolution client that comes by default in trisquel is that case?
If it's included in Trisquel, it's free software. So Evolution is free. I use Mozilla Thunderbird, which is also in the Trisquel repositories. There are other email clients available as well.
ok i see the logic with evolution... why you use thunderbird if is just open source?
I'm not sure what you mean about it being "just open source." I use Thunderbird because I prefer it to Evolution.
ok but you should prefer freedom than what you like... thunderbird is open source which is not the same as free software, but i think you already know that.
Thunderbird, as well as anything else included in Trisquel or in the software repository is free software.
are u sure? then its wikipedia page is wrong ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird
The wikipedia page is right.
"Mozilla Thunderbird is a free,[6] open source, cross-platform email, news and chat client developed by the Mozilla Foundation."
"License MPL"
"The Mozilla Public License (MPL) is a free, open source, and detailed software license developed and maintained by the Mozilla Foundation."
On 10/07/13 11:04, rova wrote:
> are u sure? then its wikipedia page is wrong !
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird
Mozilla Thunderbird is licensed under the MPLv2, which is accepted as an
open source license by the OSI and as a free software license by the FSF.
There is a bug report at the moment for Thunderbird to be rebranded and
modified for Trisquel, due to trademark restrictions and non-free addon
recommendations.
https://trisquel.info/en/issues/6456
Andrew.
I am a member!
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On 10/07/13 08:51, rova wrote:
> is there any all free email client some where? the evolution client
> that comes by default in trisquel is that case?
Evolution is free and comes with Trisquel by default. It's in the
Applications Menu under "Internet".
Thunderbird is also very popular and can be installed using Add/Remove
Applications or with the command "sudo apt-get install thunderbird".
Sylpheed comes with Trisquel Mini by default. And there is also Claws Mail.
Andrew.
Isn't icedove just the thing we want instead of thunderbird?
It's listed in the free software directory of the fsf, so I can't imagine it recommending non-free add-ons.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:13:10 +0200 (CEST)
name at domain wrote:
> Isn't icedove just the thing we want instead of thunderbird?
> It's listed in the free software directory of the fsf, so I can't
> imagine it recommending non-free add-ons.
It was mentioned already as an issue
(https://trisquel.info/en/issues/6456). Unfortunately no update yet as
of May 25 2013.
Besides the problem with offering non-free addons, I think there maybe
an issue with the branding as it uses the same license as with Firefox.
For the meantime, I suggest you use Evolution or Claws.
For myself, I don't see any problem using thunderbird, because I don't install non-free addons.
The problem exists only for trisquel, because new and unexperienced users can get tricked into using non-free software.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:24:35 +0200 (CEST)
name at domain wrote:
> For myself, I don't see any problem using thunderbird, because I
> don't install non-free addons.
> The problem exists only for trisquel, because new and unexperienced
> users can get tricked into using non-free software.
Kindly correct me if I'm wrong, besides the reason with
suggesting non-free addons and plugins, the reason why Firefox (and
possibly in the future: Thunderbird) wasn't included is because it has a
statement in their branding that it cannot be sold under those names.
And if, it can't be sold, then it would run against Freedom #2 "Freedom
to redistribute copies."
The Free Software Directory includes software which we remove for
recommending nonfree software (there is no rule against it) and doesn't
include software with nonfree documentation (we include it without the
documentation). A problem with the first issue is that many packages
are patched only in distros to solve this problem, the directory focuses
on upstream packages.
Then I don't understand the behaviour of the fsf.
They don't endorse debian, because it offers the possibility to install non-free software.
But according to you, other software which recommends non-free software is part of the free software directory.
Then I don't understand the behaviour of the fsf.
They don't endorse debian, because it offers the possibility to install non-free software.
But according to you, other software which recommends non-free software is part of the free software directory.
wow what a mess. there should be a good free software directory so that new users dont get dirty using shitty non-free software
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:06:23 +0200 (CEST)
name at domain wrote:
> wow what a mess. there should be a good free software directory so
> that new users dont get dirty using shitty non-free software
Yup, feel free to help in editing changes in the Free Software
Directory. It'll take time, effort, and a lot of volunteers from
the community to update it.
Here's the link on how to help:
http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory:Participate
There's Geary which has a PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~yorba/+archive/ppa