Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

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jxself
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A codename for Trisquel 9 will be needed soon. It's not needed very urgently, but it would be good to have a name by next week.

Trisquel 9 will be based on the as-yet-unreleased Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver."

Rules for names:
* Trisquel versions are named after Celtic gods.
* It should be a "searchable" name (that is, a name that doesn't have many results on search engines, so we can "take it over." For example: Searching for Flidas has Trisquel in the top results.

Our fearless leader will review suggestions and make a decision.

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Oh, so as to avoid confusion it should also not re-use a name that's been used before or that might be confusingly similar. Past names are:

1.0: Arianrhod
2.0: Robur
3.0: Dwyn
3.5: Awen
4.0: Taranis
4.5: Slaine
5.0: Dagda
5.5: Brigantia
6.0: Toutatis
7.0: Belenos
8.0: Flidas

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Balor

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Lucoubus/Lucubus

gnu-bori
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Samhain or Druid (ancient Celtic priesthood)

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I vote for Druid :)
it makes me remember Asterix&Obelix stories. Druids are old and kind men creating magic somewhere in the village or forest to give a power for ones, who want to defend the freedom of brave people living in Gaul.

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Pritona; I think it should be female and a word that has an alternate spelling we can take over. The more common spelling is Ritona.

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Epona is a godess as well. She is associated with horses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epona

It is recognized in cevral languages and is a simple name.

It can also be easily said everywhere.

quantumgravity
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You will never get any reference to trisquel if you enter "epona" into your search engine, since it will always show results about the horse from "the legend of zelda".

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I actually think Triquel may be able to ride popularity of Legend of Zelda with a name like Epona.

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Or ... what about a Roman god? Janus, the god of gates, doors, and beginnings. The month of January was named after Janus, who had two faces​—one looking forward and the other looking backward, just like Trisquel (the distro) looking up for you. Just a thought friends!

strypey
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Janus is a cool god, but the same has already been used in tech:
https://janus.conf.meetecho.com/

CalmStorm

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Also in goldeneye. ;)

meh...

loldier
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Abandinus would be hilarious and future-proof if Ruben ever gets tired of pushing out new versions.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandinus

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+1 for Abandinus

I absolutely prefer Abandinus \o/

If I may add one: Oblitus

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supertamp83
oblītus m (feminine oblīta, neuter oblītum); first/second declension

forgotten
disregarded, neglected

Stop been a title molester..
lol

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>Stop been a title molester..

ok :P

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Abandinus ... the only issue that I see with this one is that in spanish it sound like "abandonado", left out. And we don't want to give the impression of Trisquel being abandon, left out .... :-)

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That's what makes it such a great name, though! :) It's a nice little in-joke about all the drama and speculation about Trisquel being... abandoned. ;)

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I like funny names that aren't ridiculous per se.
Great one

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gnu-bori

awesome skull and flag! are you from the Island or raised in the USA,?

About abandinus

Abandinus was a name used to refer to a Celtic god or male spirit worshipped in Godmanchester in Cambridgeshire during the Romano-Celtic period.

Abandinus - "Defender of the Waters"

Known as ‘Defender of the Waters,’ not much is known of the Celtic god Abandinus, save for an inscription on a bronze votive found in Cambridgeshire, England which read “To the god Abandinus, Vatiaucus gave this from his own money.”

Diccionario de la lengua española © 2005 Espasa-Calpe:
abandonar conjugar ⇒

tr. Dejar, desamparar:
abandonar a un bebé.
Desistir, renunciar:
abandonar una idea. También intr.:
no abandones.
Dejar un lugar:
abandonar la casa.
prnl. Dejarse dominar por afectos, pasiones o vicios:
abandonarse a la bebida, a la suerte.
Descuidar los intereses, las obligaciones, el aseo personal o la compostura:
se ha abandonado mucho.
Rendirse ante las adversidades:
debe luchar contra su enfermedad y no abandonarse.

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Camulus (Camulos, Camalos) is a god of war and sky.
Other terms that might be found are a German band (spelled Camulos) and a museum called Rancho Camulos. Those don't rank very high in the searches I made.

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What about Etiona?

"Etiona is a Celtic goddess worshipped in Gaul; she is known only from inscriptions in Etrechy, France, where she was accompanied by her fellow deities Carantana, Isosa, Gnatus, and Hidua ... The origin of Etiona’s name is unclear. I have seen it suggested that it derives from the Proto-Celtic *ett(n)jo or “kernel” and that this indicates that she is a goddess of wisdom (i.e. “kernel of knowledge”) but I wonder if it could equally well indicate a connection to agriculture or food stores."
https://hearthfirehandworks.com/about-the-gods/gaulish-and-brythonic-celtic-gods/etiona/

A name derived from an ancient word for kernel seems like a good GNU-Linux name, although it could also be a good name for a libre fork of the Linux kernel.

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Or what about Garmangabis?
"‘those who consider the bare of the weaver’, British goddess of fortune that is revered in Lancashire, northwest England. The Romans brought her to England."
http://www.sangreal.be/Downloads/Celtic_Gods.pdf

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Congratulations on suggesting the name that got picked!

GrevenGull
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Why does it need to be a Celtic god?

Just wondering:)

jxself
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"Why does it need to be a Celtic god?"

I don't suppose it "needs" to be anything right? But to follow with tradition. You may as well ask why does Debian need to be named after Toy Story characters or why Ubuntu needs to be an adjective+animal combination. Or why any particular distro needs to be named in any particular way. Because someone, somewhere, made that decision. And this naming system is what Trisquel is using. Any naming system will be arbitrary so let's enjoy ours and get back to our regularly scheduled progrmaming and try to come up with names for Trisquel 9.

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jxself

"Why does it need to be a Celtic god?"
why not catholic, orthodox, Arabic names, Hebrew, Asian, mundane or biblical names?

in the other hand as names?
here is my list
-priscal
s. m. Lugar en el campo donde se recogen los ganados por la noche

Cristal
glass of fine quality and a high degree of brilliance

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> I don't suppose it "needs" to be anything right?

Fantastic!:) I love openness and fluidity! :D

I have limited/none programming skills/knowledge and I have never been part of any software project. Bear that in mind when I'm asking following question:

Is there any reason why it cannot be simply "Trisquel 9", "Trisquel9", "TrisquelNine" etc?:)

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It is called Trisquel 9, but it has a code name. Having code names is a long-standing practice in computer software development.

They used to be code names or project names but I guess nowadays they are just names. People like names. They are easier to remember and are affectionate.

jxself
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"Is there any reason why it cannot be simply "Trisquel 9", "Trisquel9", "TrisquelNine" etc?:)"

Yes: It doesn't follow the tradition to name releases after Celtic gods. The purpose of this thread wasn't to start a discussion of changing the naming system.

ivanB1975
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What about Morrigan, goddess of War?

SuperTramp83

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What about Callahan, god of .44 Magnum?

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loldier
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Callahan:"These free libre distros are like a-holes -- everybody has one."

ivanB1975
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What about "Anand"? Synonims are "Ana", "Anann". Anann sound nice to me.

loldier
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Maybe we should name them after kings? Reminds me of Ananda Mahidol.

--Arthur
--Otto
--Leopold
--Rurik
--Zogu

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I vote for "Artur" without the h.

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I like Convetina the godess of water

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I think just listing names won't do so much good here, we will just get a copy of the wikipedia list in the end...
maybe this time our beloved voting system can come in handy for once and be used for ... well, for voting.

So, I personally like the name "Convetina".

If you're also in favor of convetina, then please VOTE UP :)

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>maybe this time our beloved voting system can come in handy for once and be used for ... well, for voting.

+1 was just given to Abandinus

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My two cents:

I don't have a particular preference, but I think it should definitely be a *female* name.

That would be a small but significant sign of not following the dominant patriarchy in technology (and in society in general).

Happy hacking!

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Definitively! I vote for Miss Heyjoe

Fil
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>What about Miss Heyjoe?

I'm may be missing something, but I don't get it..

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"Patriarchy in technology". Riiiight.

In case my sarcasm doesn't show through clearly enough, please do *not* turn Trisquel into an SJW "muh womens representation" distro. "Female" is not a part of Trisquel's naming scheme; Trisquel releases are named after Celtic gods, either male *or* female. In fact, take a look at the past names: five of them are female, five of them are male, and one of them is unisex. Maybe actually look into what the distro is doing before shouting "patriarchy" and trying to inject your identity politics where they don't belong.

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I think software should (preferably, not absolutely) be female. Like ships. Or trees in some languages. Or calamities (like hurricanes). Software moves, sails and surfs, it grows and sometimes it crashes.

Like Libertas is feminine.

I don't think it has anything to do with being "SJW".

I take UNIX as female (see the 'X'). In Latin, the x may be a female suffix. It's, of course, a bit far-fetched in this context, because the full suffix would be '-trix'. See Ultrix (avenger).

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I whole-heartedly agree.
There is a set naming scheme for Trisquel releases, we should go with that as it stands and there is not reason to introduce any arbitrary rules.

It doesn't matter if the release code names are of male *or* female god*esses or one that's unisex, for lack of a better word, because that's not the *point*.
The argument is akin to discussing whether a release milestone should be named after a small or large clothing size, or it being a one-size-fits-all release name.

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Please do not shoot down other people's suggestions and rant about why they are bad.

Do instead suggest something yourself.

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For the record: I agree with Fil

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I was "shooting down" a female supremacist trying to inject female supremacy where it doesn't belong.

This thread is not about changing Trisquel's naming system. Trisquel already *has* a naming system which includes both male *and* female names, and incidentally, it has exactly equal representation of male and female names as of Trisquel 8.

Furthermore, it is you and Fil who are categorically shooting down every possible male name that could be on the table, including the "Abandinus" suggestion above that multiple people (myself included) like. So your "please do not shoot down suggestions" response is hypocritical.

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Didn't even think female supremacists existed... Although that in hindsight might have been a silly thing for me to think.

Abandinus isn't a bad name, as long as people get the inside joke. heh..

But meh...