Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

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onpon4
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This is what you said:

> I don't have a particular preference, but I think it should definitely be a *female* name.
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> That would be a small but significant sign of not following the dominant patriarchy in technology (and in society in general).

You offered no suggestion for a name to use. You just said that it "should" be female, which implies that it "should" not be male, i.e. that you are categorically opposed to all male name suggestions. This is a female supremacist attitude, and your justification for this is the vague "patriarchy", the typical female supremacist excuse. You being male has no bearing on whether or not what you are championing is female supremacy.

> I just dropped down my own two cents, simply put. I have no intention to turn this thread into any discussion of any kind

In other words, you're willing to spread propaganda to support your bigoted ideology where it doesn't belong and subtly try to push a project that has nothing to do with your ideology to start supporting it, but you aren't willing to actually defend what you say in a discussion.

A word of advice: if you aren't willing to follow up on something, such as by answering to the fact that Trisquel has exactly equal representation of the sexes as of Trisquel 8 and therefore doesn't fit into your "patriarchy" narrative, don't post it in the first place.

Fil
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I now see I could've done a mistake in the first place, by posting what was meant to be a naive and peaceful comment.

It's now evident to me that my initial wording wasn't perfectly chosen to reflect the naive intent of my comment.

>You just said that it "should" be female, which implies that it "should" not be male, i.e. that you are categorically opposed to all male name suggestions.

I'm not a native english speaker, but you seem to be, so I guess your exegesis of my words is to be considered accurate.
If that's the case, I must make ammends for messing up with words:
I am not opposed to giving Trisuel 9 a male name.
I'm totally ok with male names.

Furthermore, I'd like to assure you and everybody else that I did not want to start any "sex equality" quarrel, and the intent behind my original post had nothing to do with that.
If my words did suggest such a scenario, then *it's my own fault* and I'm sorry about all the noise.

I also want to make clear that I have no agenda to be pushed on this forum.

>A word of advice: (....)
Got it.
I'd give you mine, If I may... most of the times, harsh quarrels can be avoided by giving others the "benefit of the doubt", instead of blindly pinning names on them before they have the opportunity to clarify their intentions..

That said, I have no acrimony on you personally. I think we just took an unfortunate path of misunderstanding.

Peace.

P.S. If you wish, I'm perfectly willing to continue our discussion.. Just not in this thread (what about the troll lounge?)

GrevenGull
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When a person proposes a name, that person is "categorically opposed" to every other proposal?

What Fit did was proposing an entire group of names, hence he was "opposed to" all the other groups, which is a natural biproduct of proposing things.

What you did was attacking his proposal and questioning his intentions.

onpon4
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I see I haven't been very diplomatic with my posts. To all involved parties, I apologize, and I'll try to do better next time.

strypey
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Hey onpon, it's good of you to say this, and I'm happy to be part of a community where we value being friendly and welcoming, and where it's ok and earns respect to admit when things go wrong. Respect.

For the record, I sympathize with the point you were making. As you know, I'm pretty good as laying on the rhetorical flushes myself, but in hindsight, I think just stating the facts about the genders of past names would have made your point for you. I didn't know many of the past names were female, and it was good to find out. Thanks to you for sharing the knowledge, and to Fil for making the comment that allowed the knowledge to be shared :)

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>I'm a "white heterosexual middle-class man" (yuck!). I'm definitely no female supremacist. And I don't like the idea of anybody's "supremacy" over anybody else. Be it of any kind.

You mind explaining the (yuck!) that you included after listing what you are?

strypey
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Irony? Self-deprecating humour?

Legimet
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Female supremacy? Lol, I don't think Fil is the "SJW" here.

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Trisquel 9 -> Lugus

> I don't have a particular preference,
> but I think it should definitely be a *female* name.

Flidas is a female figure in Irish Mythology

jamathis

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Creidhne. The god of metalworkers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creidhne

IrishUSA
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Perhaps this list would be useful:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Celtic_deities

IrishUSA
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A few recommendations:

Telesphorus. The name (via false cognates) suggests telecommunications and light, which in this age of the internet, fiber optics, and glowing screens, fits computers well. The name apparently actually means "accomplisher" or "bringer of completion" which would be fitting once the distro is released. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telesphorus_(mythology) One downside is that the "-us" suffix suggests a Latin rather than Celtic origin to the average person.

Neto. Easy to say and pronounce. Worshipped by ancient Celts in the Iberian peninsula, which fits Trisquel's origins as being targeted to Celtic-descended people in a region of Spain. Downside for some is that this was a god of war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neto_(deity)

Ériu. Old name for Éire, the patron goddess of pre Christian Ireland. Its appeal to the Irish and their diaspora could be seen as a feature (since the Irish are the largest Celtic group worldwide) but also a bug, obscuring Trisquel's Galician origins.

Llŷr. Has a very Celtic feel without being too difficult to spell. Too specifically Welsh-sounding?

Clíona (a more accessible spelling of Clíodhna). A pleasant ring to the name, with some pleasant aspects to the myth, such as being a goddess of love and beauty. Downside: some beliefs about her were of her as a banshee, a wailing mourner of the dead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cl%C3%ADodhna.

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If we were to go with Neto, the pronounciation could be "neat-o" ;)

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This once I would like a name that ends with a vowel, such as Secuana or Habrena. Anyway, both are gods associated with rivers; this is suitable for the new version: if Ubuntu 18.04 is a beaver, we can give him a place to live in freedom. ;)

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I really like Etiona so I upvoted this post.

My proposal for a feminine name :

Oanuava: ancient Gallic earth goddess, a mother goddess who is regional revered as the source from which all life flows.

(source)

eean
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My proposal for a masculine name :

Mabon: Welsh god of freedom, harmony, unity, music and youth, known as the son of the Great Mother.

(source)

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> "It should be a "searchable" name (that is, a name that doesn't have many results on search engines, so we can "take it over." For example: Searching for Flidas has Trisquel in the top results."

Just a (not-too-thoroughly though out, I have to say) thought but surely searching for a name we can "take over" won't help (since that means anyone searching for Flidas now is probably looking for Trisquel anyway and would just type "Trisquel Flidas" without being in the slightest deterred), whereas going for a name that's "taken over" on e.g. Google (i.e. has a lot of people searching for it already) would instead expose Trisquel to people who otherwise would've had no chance of encountering it?

tl;dr: wouldn't actively going for a name not taken over by anything be a bit of a preaching to the choir thing not exposing more people to Trisquel?

EDIT: voted +1 thinking I could neutralise it back to zero. I can''t.

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yeehi
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I think jxself is a god. We should have named it after him!

:)

Aiming to have had the subsequent Trisquel based on Bionic Beaver is, I sense, at the same time both over-ambitious and underambitious.

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Trixself :)

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Vivi, Dina, Meela, Sally, Polina, Bela, Leya

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Bella Lena