Ubuntu One
I've been trying to install Ubuntu One, but I've been unable to do so, and many of the packages for it in Synaptic aren't working. Has anyone able to use Ubuntu One in Trisquel?
It seems like the issue is that ubuntuone-client isn't in the repos. That's odd, because the repos include packages like ubuntuone-client-gnome, which depend on ubuntuone-client :s
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Is Ubuntu One considered free software? Even if the client is, the server side stuff is proprietary, but that is considered ok right?
I am a member!
As I understand Ubuntu One es proprietary there for it wont be in the
repositories.
The launchpad says the package in question is GPL 3 (https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client)
Use this to download the source code:
bzr branch lp:ubuntuone-client
I'm pretty sure that all other packages in the Ubuntu One project (https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone) are also free software, so it doesn't make sense that it doesn't work in Trisquel.
Also, I don't think that just because Canonical is more lenient that they would deal with proprietary software if it were feasible to do otherwise. I can understand why they include software like Skype or Flash because the free alternatives work nowhere near as well, but we're talking about products Canonical themselves have made. If Canonical were okay with including non-free software in their syncing service, it would have been more practical to partner with a service like Dropbox as the basis.
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On 08/18/2012 11:05 PM, Roberto Rodríguez wrote:
> As I understand Ubuntu One es proprietary there for it wont be in the
> repositories.
>
The *server* component is non-free.
The *service* can also be considered non-free, see:
http://www.commons.freenetworkfoundation.org/index.php?title=Free_network_definition
http://autonomo.us/2008/07/14/franklin-street-statement/
IMO having the U1 sync client installed or being easy to install
encourages using Canonical's service. I have nothing against paying,
except when I can't submit public bug reports against a server component
(mainly, but I have other reasons).
I'd encourage you to install your own OwnCloud server, on your
infrastructure or on DreamHost (which I use).
My notes on Dreamhost+OwnCloud:
http://wiki.dreamhost.com/OwnCloud
Other OwnCloud providers (some commercial):
http://owncloud.org/providers/
I've tried PortKnox.net, very responsive/open to suggestions and runs
the latest OwnCloud version.
Trisquel 5.5 OwnCloud sync binaries (pick Ubuntu 11.10):
http://software.opensuse.org/download/package?project=isv:ownCloud:community&package=owncloud-client
(source links here: http://owncloud.org/sync-clients/)
I prefer Trisquel limited resources be used for other things and have U1
removed completely. U1 is installed by default in Ubuntu.
Cheers,
Fabian Rodriguez
http://trisquel.magicfab.info
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I am a member!
Is there actually anything pointing to Ubuntu One client portion having a component that is non-free? I don't think this has ever been clearly answered here.
I haven't seen anything to suggest it has any non-free dependencies that was reliable info. I haven't looked at the code though either.
That said I think we should be careful not to confuse free software with other issues. Canonical is under no obligation to release the code running on the back end. Almost nobody releases such code either. Even had/or if Canonical is using GPL licensed code there is no obligation to release modifications of it publicly. That would only be true if Canonical released a binary of it. However since the company is only (as far as I know) running the software on there own servers I'm not sure this is a free software issue.
The only thing here that seems to make me think that there is a free software issue is the suggestion of missing components from the Trisquel repository. Maybe this is due to one of the other issues. I don't know.
There are lots of other issues. "cloud computing" is potentially dangerous. You are placing your data needlessly into the hands of companies that neither care about you, your data, or your privacy. Or if they care about you or your data it is only where it suits them (making money from selling it or statistics to advertisers, etc).
You sent your message before I started mine, but you touched on some of my thoughts. I think that either something went bizerk and excluded the packages, they were removed for using software as a service, or some other accident.
I'm aware of the ethical issues with allowing a service to see my data, but I don't think it's sufficient enough (if this is what happened) to take away my ability to install and run the software. I want Ubuntu One so I can sync my books and classwork easily, and have a backup of them accessible anywhere. If I were to put personal data in it, I'd of course encrypt it.
I use a self hosted SVN over https repo for this. It's running on an old laptop so the power bill is low. I use no-ip to bypass dynamic ip with a domain name. There is a free (as in beer) single domain name service at no-ip. The noip2 client is free software in the Trisquel.
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On 08/19/2012 10:15 AM, name at domain wrote:
> I use a self hosted SVN over https repo for this. It's running on an old laptop so the power bill is
low. I use no-ip to bypass dynamic ip with a domain name. There is a
free (as in beer) single domain name service at no-ip. The noip2 client
is free software in the Trisquel.
PageKite seems to do this nicely, while having their server component
under GPL license too:
http://pagekite.net/
F.
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ubuntuone-client has in fact been purged from Trisquel. As for the justification behind that I can not provide an answer.
there is a desktop client available for owncloud, so you could run your own server instance or get an account at one of the hosted services.